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Agreed...but sometimes it bugs me when it's something blatant that they claim is legit. I'm presuming someone's done Alan Green already. I was in England for the first time this season at the weekend and saw the Football League Show (or whatever it's called). You can add a pet hate of whichever divot fails to appreciate that all fans really want to see on TV is as much of the match as possible. The old Football League goals show that ITV used to have on at 3 in the morning was miles better.

Give it time. When they win the CL, it'll be f***ing horrific. Honest question, are Barça fans as obnoxious? I can totally understand that we might be. People of my age grew up when Barça won the league once a decade, but the young'uns are pretty spoiled. In England? Not, really. There must be thousands and thousands of people in Newcastle alone who own a Barca shirt, but for the most part, I just add them to the pile of people who own Brazil shirts: people who appreciate attractive football. I can understand kids idolizing teams like Chelsea, Barca, etc., but their parents should beat it out of them sharpish, tbh. It's a fine line between admiring Messi and being some kind of X-Factor, celeb whore. Totally agree. You support your local club and admire others, that's how it should be. I grew up in North London (mostly), and when I was a kid you were either Spurs, Arsenal or glory-hunting Liverpool. There was one West Ham, no Chelsea, a couple of Orient and only one Man U - I can even name him, Tasos Anastasiou. I dread to think what it would be today. As for Chelsea, I actually have no problem with them now because they are so removed from the club they were when I grew up. I know a couple of fans who stopped supporting them when Abramovich came in, and I can't take any of their new fans seriously at all. Of the Big Four I hate Arsenal, for obvious reasons, and Liverpool because they're who I grew up hating.

I hope Martinez doesn't completely change his approach after this game though. Much better to see a manager willing to attack and play football against every team and be as likely to nick a one nil against the big boys or suffer an arse tanning. Total myth that Wigan play good football. Their tactics at Goodison this season were nothing short of disgraceful. They just kicked everything that moved, loads of gamesmanship etc ala Wimbledon of old. They were horrible there, but played Villa off the park at times in the first game. They'd have been better off adopting the first approach against us yesterday, mind. I enjoyed showing my (Villa) wife all the goals from yesterday - more from open play than Villa have managed in the last two years....

Why would he do that?

You lose most heat through your extremities, ie hands, feet and head, therefore it doesn't really make much difference what length sleeve you wear since you don't lose much body heat through your forearms I always thought you lost most heat through your head (etc), because everywhere else was normally covered. Am I an idiot? Yes, that's true, but then come the hands and feet, and since the hands don't do anything during a football match (unless you're Thierry Henry), then one is often required to wear gloves, sometimes with short sleeves, but it makes no difference with the length of sleeve. The heat loss through the head thing is a myth... Yeah, it's based on a misinterpretation of an old military study (US I think). You're not a man until you've been hit in the thigh or balls by a football in sub-zero temperature.

It's cos you invaded our country and were basically c***s to us for a fair while, tbf. Mostly in good spirit that we root against England though. Aye, Burnip. Why'd you do that, you big bloody invading meanie? I dunno, it was a moment of weakness. I've apologised ever since. It's a good job I don't have any Irish buddies, I wouldn't be able to control myself. You'd steal their crisps too.

I thought it was normally for a friend or relative who died? From what I've seen so far over here, they do it for God quite often in American sports. The Lampard stuff bugs me too but it's up to him I guess, just not something I would ever do so publicly. So, OK, every sports person who thanks God for letting them win (i.e. making everyone else lose). Everybody should be made to either jog back to the halfway line after a couple of firm handshakes with your team mates, or run, jump and punch the air like you're a 1970 Brazilian footballer. Unless you're Marco Tardelli.

this. I'd have been happy to see Spain, Argentina and France all go out. I love it when a big team screws it up.

Agreed on defenders "shielding" the ball, attackers getting away with fouls that defenders would see red for ("Oh, that's a striker's tackle", yes it is, and it nearly broke the defender's leg, so send the fkr off), managers having a go at refs every game, players essentially allowed to say or do whatever they like to the officials without sanction, diving. Obviously. I'd add pundits who don't know the laws of the game (that's you, Kamara, you tool), and players who point to the sky after scoring. Like God gives a flying fuck.

I was watching TV here (Ohio, USA) yesterday and Stourbridge v Walsall came on. God knows what the locals here made of it.

:lol: The thing is, he was amazing. We released him presumably because we thought he'd never recover. As soon as West Ham picked him up, people were on the Spurs boards worried that he'd become the player we all expected before the injury.

Viva El Presidente!! That's more like it. Would you set a minimum length? Beard optional?

Reminds me of America NBA player Eddie Griffin , who comitted suicide by sitting in his car on train the tracks until the train came. He was burned so badly they could not recognise the body. That wasn't really surprising though. He was troubled. Had severe alcohol/drug problems and had gotten into a car accident while pleasuring himself. Enke, on the other hand, seemed to be relatively stable and headed in the right direction in his career. He wasn't though, and that's the point. He was diagnosed as clinically depressed as early as 2003, but it was kept quiet because they were worried about the public reaction, as well as the possibility that it might lead to him losing his kids. What a mess. As a contrast, I can't remember what the reaction was to Trescothick's problems, initially, but he seems to have been given a lot of time to come to terms with it by the public and media.

If Taarabt ever engages his brain he will be amazing. Just can't see it happening. Henderson looked canny against us (Spurs) on Saturday, dirty, but there's something there.

They didn't really have that much bad luck - certainly not considering the good luck of Harry starting 433 with Keane, Defoe and Crouch on the same pitch. That and Bent dived for the pen. They just should have won. It evens out the Stoke match for us too - we should have scored 5 or 6 and lost. Que sera sera.

I would hardly call it terrible. The important fact was that we won the game and easily deserved to do so. Today we saw Plan B for the first time, and it was good. I just hope he sticks with it now rather than going back to type next week Incidentally, VitalVilla is a horrible little site, inhabited by drooling trolls. many trolls, but there are a few shining lights *checks to see if wife is watching over shoulder*. I only meant that if Liverpool had scored that chance in the first half an hour, when you were in disarray, I couldn't see you getting back into it. As it is, that game arrested a potential decline and then MON sorted the defence out.

Even the Liverpool performance was terrible first half, remember that passage of play when you kicked the ball off the line about three times in a row? After that, you got back to playing the same way that was effective last year. Like you say, the problem is that you have one way of playing. If it works, then it's great, if it's not working then it looks ugly and there does not appear to be a plan B. I'm on Vital Villa a fair bit (wife is Villa) and some of the criticism has been terrible, but justified. Then the same people were complaining today when it was 5-1 and Delfouneso was "only given 8 minutes to prove himself". It was 5-1! Some people will criticise MON whatever happens.

You'll get to see Bruce crying about that match on SSN. We (Spurs) were rubbish when Keane was on the pitch in a comedy 433 and Sunderland should have stuffed us today. Harry needs to grow some balls and drop Keane. Bent dived a la Rooney for the penalty too.

So, Europe, shitty homer refs, Roma and Marseille getting comedy decisions. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

2-1 was result of the century since it must've been 2 versus 11. Don't forget Pepsi & Shirlee

A quote from Vital Villa: "Beye you fucking shit twat, what a shit fucking signing, and what a shit decision to play him there. Christ." Hmmm.

Yeah, at that point they'd raised their game and looked like they'd judged it beautifully. Heheheh.

Much funnier for them to score then let one in than a 0-0. Come on Lyon, finish them off.

Heehee

What a goal man.