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I mean, it’s understandable in the context. This is your manor after all, I’m just a guest. I’ll give you all some space. I will say this. I’m posting on a Spurs forum too, obviously. I’m not a weirdo . I just have connections in the area (my Best Woman is from Stakeford, among other things) and it’s a cracking forum with some beautiful people. And also, I do think it’s good for fans of different clubs to speak to each other occasionally. In that light, I’ll bow out for a bit with something from that Spurs forum I hang out on that I think is worth saying after this last few weeks and months. The first two posts are from KUMB, the last is from Spurscommunity in response. They were all posted before the games today/yesterday: Hammer 1 If we stay up, we stay up. If we go down, we go down. Planet's still gonna spin, sun's still gonna rise and set, tides still gonna rise and fall. Plenty more to be thankful for in life, so don't let today get into your head regardless of what happens and just enjoy the ride of another day on this amazing, small blue ball spinning through space. Hammer 2 Well done - as this needs / needed saying. Football, whether going to football with your friends, watching football in the pub with friends or at home watching it on your own, it means a lot to people - to some it's a way of life, it is their lives, it's like Religion. For some it's all they have. During one of my many stays in hospital, this time the Royal Alexandra, Paisley, one of the Auxiliaries was telling me about a young Rangers fan who was lying in a room down the way from me... he'd tried taking his own life after his club went into administration. Difficult to imagine, but for some following your Club becomes your life and what happens to that Club affects your life. Which is why your post is significant. Later on this evening, there'll be people on here or on other West Ham sites and in the London Stadium... and.. ...let us not forget over at Tottenham Hotspur whose lives, depending on how results go, are going to be affected badly and it's important that someone is there to offer them the same advice you offered us all here .... West Ham / Tottenham will continue to exist, Life will go on and will continue to have meaning. Clubs as big as ours, or as big as Rangers always bounce back eventually, it's only a matter of time. Take care of yourselves, wherever you are. Spurs fan: I remember being at WHL in 2011 when we relegated Birmingham. At the end of the game, before they welcomed our players et al back onto the pitch for the lap of appreciation, Coytey addressed the Birmingham fans in the corner, praised their support that day, commiserated them on going down and wished them luck in their quest to return. Both sets of fans then applauded one another and it felt like that’s how fans of relegated clubs should be treated. Today, however, I suspect within minutes of the final whistle, Dominos, Specsavers and a few betting companies will put out posts mocking whichever team has been relegated, and in doing so they’ll set the tone for internet fans everywhere, who will forward and repost those memes etc far and wide. If it’s us who goes down I expect there will even be some rival players who make comments which their own supporters will gleefully share. And someone somewhere will take it to heart, let it get to them, and do something destructive, be it to themselves or to a loved one, and those people and companies who revel in the bear baiting will accept no responsibility at all. ‘Just banter innit’. Whatever the outcome today, I recommend you already have plans for this evening, and mute WhatsApp groups etc. And remember, no matter what, we kick off again in August

Fuck me, how dodgy was that Man City disallowed goal? The guys running VAR are doing everything they can to get it binned.

I’ve no idea of the talent of the guys you mention or their ages but there could be opportunities out there. We had at least five players on loan in the Championship at the end of the season and I think Brighton and most other Prem teams had at least one or two. You’d expect it to be a player on the cusp of the first team though. Funny you mention Westerlo - we had two successful loanees there recently. Devine now at Preston, and Vuskovic at Hamburg. Both could be in the first team squad next season.

Haven’t seen their game yet . Don’t know what team Chelsea put out, but presumably they gave less of a shit than they did against us.

Playing in Europe is going to wreak havoc on their squad. When you stand back and look at it it’s an insane amount of extra games.

Steered well clear of all of this for obvious reasons. At the time the first vid was made West Ham were two points above us and out of the relegation zone. I think they are a whole new level of fucked. Used to play football with a few West Ham fans on Stepney Green. I was in the US when Upton Park was sold and so I missed their take on it all, but every West Ham fan I know says they felt empty, like a part of them had been lost. I had presumed they made a tidy profit on it but a Google suggests they made £8.3M, which seems absolutely pitiful.

Cheers mate. Tbf they’ve been talking about the assists thing for ages. Christ, did they really play “Movin’ On Up” at the London Stadium?

Reporter: So Leffe, when did you finally know you were staying up? Leffe:

Yup. It was super depressing selling Sheringham, Bale, Carrick, Robbie Keane, Modric, Berbatov, Kyle Walker etc. It’s fucking transparent why.

From your lips to God’s ears, man. Although I just spent 40 mins watching a Christopher Hitchens compilation on YouTube, which I’m beginning to realize may not have been the best idea. Pascal’s wager and all.

It’s just the same thing as always this last few years though. You’ve basically got five or six players who are much of a muchness for the one position, one which Kane already complicates the issue for. Bellingham is the one who can win you a World Cup, and then you can make a case for all the others, to a greater or lesser degree. Rogers is apparently the one who’s shown a bit more for Tuchel both on and off the pitch. I feel like we’ve said this every time about every Tuchel squad. He’s got a million pretty good to good players but virtually no great ones. That means there’s tons of scope for argument but I don’t think it’s ever going to be a “silly” or “insane” decision which I've heard so many times about so many players this month. Even ignoring Jordan Henderson there are probably half-a-dozen things I’d have done differently, but sometimes I think it’s OK to say to the manager “it’s looked pretty good so far, just pick who you want and we’ll see what happens”.

Well to distract myself let me check the fixtures and higher echelons. You’ll understand if I say I have been focused on two specific games to the exclusion of all others. … I’ve checked them . Depends on the ref. I think Chelsea have too much for Sunderland but if they can spoil the game like they did against us and Brobbey gets free rein to John Fashanu it up then Sunderland can squeak a win. I think Chelsea get at least a point, and that keeps Sunderland out of Europe. Looks like Joao Pedro and Colwill both have a chance to play, and if the former is on I think - along with Neto - Chelsea get the win.

Are there games today?

His player rating on the BBC was 9.77 The second goal was a joke. Hits a beautiful shot from 25 yards out off the cross bar - the keeper had just given it up - gets it back, lays it out wide then off the return ball spins the defender and rolls it into the corner. That’s 61 goals in 51 games this season.

We could even claim some ownership of that word tbf

Yeah, I think De Zerbi is legit. A month ago I had resigned myself to going down because despite De Zerbi’s capabilities what’s left of the squad isn’t good enough. There’s only so much he can do. What I hadn’t expected was West Ham hitting the buffers. From the game in January where they beat us to that post they got 20 points. In that same time we got four. It seemed inevitable, and we were still losing players. Like many others I’d just started working out what the plan was going to be in the Championship, and trying to look on the positive side. My main concern if we go down is making sure De Zerbi stays. If he does then there is the potential for a total rebuild and a lot of younger players coming through. I’d be very confident of coming straight back up in that case, but the financial stuff is so bonkers you can never be sure. However, if we stay up then I would absolutely expect De Zerbi to stay. He’d be incredibly powerful in the club and able to dictate pretty much everything. We’d still be able to perform a drastic rebuild, just with more options.

I dunno man, here’s one post: As for the rest - if I have more faith in Leeds winning than Spurs you can imagine I also have more faith in them drawing than us. Funnily enough I am very aware that we don’t need to win . It would be quite nice to just root for a proper team that can do proper subs and stuff.

The WSL/WSL 2 playoff between Charlton and Leicester just went to penalties.

That’s it. That’s the meme.

They’re shit, but lest we forget, against you Nuno fucked it by changing things up and they were noticeably better after he changed it back. They have players they can bring on late to freshen things up up front which could prove decisive when the chips are down. One of the podcasts suggested an approach that I am very much considering. Get a Leeds shirt, follow the Leeds game, cheer for Leeds and try not to hear anything about the Spurs match. I have more faith in Leeds winning than I do in Spurs.

That would be Northampton Town I think. It might have been roughly equidistant from the grounds tbh, but only because it was in Ohio.

Place your bet now - you should get cracking odds.

She’s a Villa fan. At our wedding the Groomsmen wore Spurs scarves and the Bridesmaids Villa. A mate of my wife got his company to make glass jars for the wedding cookies (she’s half Italian-American) that had both the badges on.

Love you too mate If there’s one good thing to come out of this, it’s a reminder of how much this shit can hurt, and how powerless we can be. I’m confident I never took the piss on here over your relegations because I’m a cunt, just not, you know, a cunt. It really hurts.

I had accepted we were going down before RDZ because of what was happening on the pitch (and in the treatment room). Was looking at financial stuff a bit, excited about all the young players that would get a chance, hoping that this would be an opportunity for a proper reset on and off the pitch. I fully expected us to come straight back up as long as we got the manager right. Maybe even Poch Then when RDZ came in, the hope was that if we could just keep him as manager in the Championship the opportunity for a proper reset was even better. He could rebuild the squad in his image from the bottom up. My main worry was - was he going to stay? It never occurred to me that West Ham would falter. They still haven’t had any proper injuries, while RDZ lost Kudus, Solanke, Simons and Vicario. They still have exactly the same players that went on that great run, able to make whatever changes Nuno wants. It’s ironic that he probably ended up having too many options against you. I haven’t looked at any of those West Ham financial articles because I’m superstitious, but you just know that they would be an absolute basket case if they went down. Honestly I would fully expect a country or oligarch to come in and buy them - maybe sling Newham Council another couple of brown paper bags of cash to properly get the stadium. Whatever. We’ll see. My wife sent me this message from the pub yesterday: “Would you be okay with watching the Sunday matches with Arsenal fans?”