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You got your telly tuned it properly? If it looks like "0-0", that'll be the score, Mick. Bloody techno gadgets.

You got your telly tuned it properly?

Can we change the title to "England eliminated from World Cup in December" or something along those lines?

Hallow pet.

Aye, they've done it 3 out of 4 times this season and I remember it happening to us a couple of times, so that must be it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Manager_of_the_Month#List_of_winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Player_of_the_Month#Winners Mix and match. http://i.imgur.com/cDFEU8U.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9JmRBCm.png Preference for double awards exaggerated it seems. Areet mate, I did say "seems" like.

How often do they give the 2 awards to the same team? Seems very common.

Me and Gimp on the same page.

FYP.

GW15: Man Utd 3-0 Newcastle Crystal Palace 2-1 Cardiff City Liverpool 3-0 West Ham Southampton 1-2 Man City Stoke City 1-2 Chelsea West Brom 2-1 Norwich Sunderland 0-1 Tottenham Fulham 1-1 Aston Villa Arsenal 2-1 Everton Swansea 2-0 Hull City

Did you see the interview? Was like some incredibly rough child scrambling for excuses when being quizzed by an adult, then just blates making something up.

"Does not constitute violent conduct". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2518888/Swansea-star-Jonjo-Shelvey-escapes-punishment-headbutt-Newcastle-United-defender.html

No ban for Shelvey.

They're a fucking disgrace to the sport IMO, I'm not even kidding.

Tricky to say, I think the top 6 or 7 are now well established whereas that used to be 4 or 5 teams but there is a lot of absolute shite in the bottom half. Not sure whether more than usual but it seems so. It all stacks up as an argument against comparing bland managerial statistics directly without taking into account any context or subjective factors whatsoever.

OK, fair enough.

He's comparing a team which was forced to play with Ian Rush and John Barnes to the one we have today. forced? You think anyone but Dalglish would have signed those 2 at that stage of their career? Dalglish inherited a title chasing team full of verve and dragged it down to 13th. Pardew took a championship squad up to 5th. Was it shite a Championship squad. In that it was by and large the squad that competed in the championship. Expectations from that squad were bottom half at best. Why are you ignoring the signings we made between when we got promoted and when we finished 5th? I'm not. I spoke of the teams inherited and where they took them. Dalglish bought the likes of barnes, Rush, Tommasson, Pistone, Andersson, Guivarch and hamilton (as well as some excellent signings) and turned Keegans entertainers into strugglers. Pardew inherited a team capable of walking the championship, but expected to be battling in the Premier League, and with a couple of additions that hardly cost a thing got us to 5th. I don't even know why you've insisted on taking the conversation down this route tbh. What do we disagree on? I'm talking about getting the best out of the resources available, which is what we started on. I'm not talking about how the squad has developed in terms of player recruitment and why would I when Pardew has no say in this? I'm simply saying that Pardew has better players than any manager we've had since Robson, so this should be taken into account when you're directly comparing managers' records. So you calling Pardew's squad a Championship squad is misleading in the extreme - we've added numerous players to that squad that were identified by a scout. Also we blitzed the Championship as we still had a number of good Premier League players. When you say he took a Championship squad to 5th it implies you're talking about roughly the same squad or implying his knack in the transfer market had something to do with it.

He's comparing a team which was forced to play with Ian Rush and John Barnes to the one we have today. forced? You think anyone but Dalglish would have signed those 2 at that stage of their career? Dalglish inherited a title chasing team full of verve and dragged it down to 13th. Pardew took a championship squad up to 5th. Was it shite a Championship squad. In that it was by and large the squad that competed in the championship. Expectations from that squad were bottom half at best. Why are you ignoring the signings we made between when we got promoted and when we finished 5th?

You're the one who brought up quality of squads and repeated the point when I ignored it. All I did was add context for Dave's comfortable win stats. I was saying I thought Pardew had a better squad than any since Robson's, hence why I thought it was weird you started talking about the squad we had in 1996/97.

He also signed a few players that ended up being useful for Robson once Gullit had gone - Given, Speed, Dabizas, Griffin.

We last won there in 1971 or something so let's check what that owld fucker did.

Didn't think it was lucky at all really, we thought we'd got away with them having the clearest of chances but we didn't.

Dalglish was also forced to sell Les Ferdinand, didn't just happen to poor old Pards under Mike Ashley.