jdckelly

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8217973.stm If Ashley's still in charge he'll wait until a player gets injured before loaning a player to fill that gap. thats what most clubs do with the loan system

liverpool are broke so wont be signing taylor villa are more likely to move for richard dunne imo and everton want a few players i think and most theyd spend on one is 4-5m

they might want to reduce the amount available on overdraft

Where did you get this from? There's no way the club's worth anything like £200m+. Writing off that loan has to be part of any realistic deal surely. The key word there is realistic. I don't any more than anyone else on here but I could well believe that Ashley's insistence on recovering his loan is a key reason for there being no takers so far. I've seen nothing from any reliable source that indicates the loan is being written off. When you buy a business you inherit its assets and liabilities and the loan is simply a liability of the company. It is indeed, I put it in specifically. If Ashley is attempting to the sell the club for £100m plus £110m debt to Ashley plus any overdraft, then any and all bids have almost certainly been pure fabrications. If he is trying to sell the club for that, then he isn't seriously trying to sell it at all. (I don't believe this is the case.) The only realistic way he could sell the club for anything like £100m is if he wrote off the debt. If this is the case and if the money from player sales is going towards reducing that debt, then should a sale go through he is effectively "trousering the cash" as it is reducing his losses and is money the club will never see again. How does he get that cash out of the club though? People on here who are significantly more clued up on finances than I keep saying it would be illegal. There's nothing illegal about paying off a debt. The debt is to Ashley. The money would go into Ashley's bank account. Yeah but its unlikely we've received much as the transfer will be over a few years. You're only guessing that though. Ashley may have insisted on getting all or most of the money up front. I'd be surprised if we haven't received at least £10-15m cash from sales so far this Summer, plus there are the instalments from Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, the season ticket income, new away kits, etc. All things considered, the club should really have no overdraft and money in the bank at this point in the season, but noone really knows for sure, it MAY have gone into paying off the debt to Ashley. it might not be an overdraft but rather the overdraft facility which is available to the club

Doesn't that amount to embezzlement, ie illegal? no, he owns the club outright, he can take as much out as he likes, even if it's a detrimental to his buisiness (club). He isn't an employee and doesn't pay himself a salary so the only way to get money out of the business is by paying a dividend. Since the club is technically insolvent it is illegal to pay dividends so any suggestion that Ashley is trousering transfer money is bollox. how the f*** does he make a living out of this club then? he doesnt he makes his living out of flogging crap shirts

the big announcement is saying theres going to be more news soon! feckin typical eh, still better than been taken off the market

Wasn't Ashley's last announcement to the Times, i.e. the 'I'm selling up' announcement that came completely out of the blue? Club's web site wasnt it ? That was the time he was selling up before! and this time, it first came in the times but officially it came on the nufc website with the e-mail address for bids.

It is as equally impeccable as yours. You are clutching at straws, I'm clutching at straws. as far as I can see, people are jumping on this 'we are not being sold' bandwagon for no apparent reason, so I'm just trying to offer a different perspective. It is like the administration on Friday story from a few weeks ago, although more people seem to have got into this one. Mine? What my previous comment that Ashley may wait until playing Palace away for our 4th game of the season to judge how things may pan out on the pitch Vs. your, he only makes announcements at weekends? Shut up man. Where did I say he only makes announcements at weekends? The point was that he is an impulsive guy, I can't see him going around telling club sources that there will be an announcement on Monday that he is staying. He will just come out and say what he wants to say when he makes his mind up, be it Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Same logic applied to the other outcome. Why would he wait to make a sale announcement? If something was agreed, he'd say. If it wasn't, he wouldn't know for sure it'd be sorted by the Monday. It's a fair point, but my instinct says that there are two clear differences. The first is that contracts may still need to get signed, perhaps one of the key investors can't get here until Monday from the States for example. The second is slightly silly, and a real definite straw clutch, but perhaps he just wanted one last game as Newcastle owner That is of course if anything is happenning on Monday at all this is a good point about contracts and such, a sale could be agreed in a gentlemans agreement etc but until a sales purchase agreement is signed its not really sold. I'm not expecting anything to happen tomorrow personally though

3pm press conference................................

any bets it will be a nothing announcement just saying efforts are ongoing blah blah blah

its the news of the world i always work off the assumption the stories they print are complete lies

i get the feeling the mail made this one up, no one is going to say a thing out of llambias or ashley so whos going to contradict them and it fits with their make newcastle look as bad as possible agenda

in fairness who wants to pay to watch sam allerdyces team?

too much positivity don't know how to react

i had heard they had money problems (some tax bill it turns out they owe from a previous presidential reign there) but seriously they are desperate if they think jonas would be a good addition (if its even true at all)

i was told by John Gibson last night that he had travelled to talks with Everton last night, maybe something has happened, couldn't agree fee, personal terms etc and he's travelled back this morning but arrived too late for training!! or maybe john gibson is clueless

yes 7 points from 9 is shit alright

i like this guy

thats surprising in itself, if completely welcome, so they aint utterly brain dead then

well thats maradonna on my i like that guy list much as i will criticise jonas for lack of end product he does draw defenders to him

even llambias doesnt take them credibly they are obviously a bunch of attention seekers and what does sky do, give them exactly what they want, attention.

maybe ashley will be too greedy and set the price too high

Not very good IMO, not point having a go yet though he'll take a few games to settle in. hes only had a few training sessions with the team yet so obviously it will take a little time to settle in

so's moat so not much to read into eithers presence