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I can honestly say I've never heard of him before

This isn't so much because of Cabaye but more inspired by Cabaye, why in gods name do most clubs wait til the last minute to do transfer business? Makes no sense whatsoever as you end up overpaying especially if you end up desperate on deadline day.

What exactly is he supposed to say? If he says no way he's going he's slaughtered for lying and being completely delusional. He knows the score as well as we do, if a big enough offer comes in for anyone they're off no sense hiding from that truth.

He looks at things purely from a business point of view not a footballing one and the safer bet from his pov is sell him now while value is high rather than gamble on keeping him and selling in the summer for a lower value (and however unlikely it seems the buyout possibility for £6m has to be considered) and hoping we can get into top 4.

as with anything in life the truth lies between 2 extremes, he isn't shite thats obvious. However he does tend to get fairly overrated on here especially the longer he isn't in the team.

If he's going to go let it be sooner rather than later, think I'd lose my mind if this dragged out til friday. Sadly I don't see a way its not going to get dragged out til Friday we know Ashley ain't going to budge and it seems unlikely you go from £14m to £20m plus in a day or two. Fucking transfer windows.

how long til he he has to say yes or no to all transfers in or out? Or until Moyes lets him pick the side and tactics?

They say they want English players but it is obvious they only want cheap French players. Money is the only factor. fyp

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 1m Sky sources: Blackpool's Thomas Ince to discuss loan move to Swansea #SSN not sure why they don't just buy him

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 1m Blackpool give winger Thomas Ince permission to discuss loan move to Premier League club #ssn why would Blackpool allow that

so Hughtons completely lost his mind

Think it was the Press Association. SSN seemed to report first but stand corrected if that's the case. SSN probably got it at the same time as Press Association or got it off them as there was next to no delay between both saying it.

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Its something I was thinking possible alright, Blanc was certainly never first choice for the job and from the outside I'd wonder how secure his job would be if a bigger name coach became available.

I can honestly say I never once thought our low bids were to unsettle players but rather the highest we'll ever go. Bit different when a club with a bottomless pit of money that can conjure massive sponsorship deals out of thin air (and backdate them) that gets them more commercial income than any club in Europe Well that's generally the end result, which is quite convenient for us. has it? Looking back our transfer business has tended to the taking advantage of contract situations be it running out (Sissoko or Gouffran) or clauses (Cabaye) only real case of unsettling a player was Debuchy that I can think of anyway in recent times anyway. Besides whats annoying me is the very public tapping up followed by lowball offer thats just dirty tricks Hatem but that was more about him being unhappy over a broken promise than anything else, we used him being pissed off to our advantage. aye was more using a situation to our advantage than actively trying to engineer it. Don't know why I'm really annoyed by it tbh every club has done it at some stage and no one has the moral high ground in this regard.

the theory is if he throws another tantrum about leaving we'd lower our asking price just to remove a bad influence on the dressing room. Reality however has Mike Ashley in the way so god only knows how that would work out. Can't see Ashley giving the first fuck in that respect. His price is his price, we don't know what it is but I highly doubt Ashley will knock a few million off just because Cabaye throws his toys out of the pram. as I said its the standard theory and it must have some basis in reality otherwise clubs wouldn't continue attempts to unsettle players but Ashley is hardly conventional in football club owner terms. You're not wrong there. Still think we've leaked it in the hope another club becomes interested and the price is forced up. This theory is much more plausible imo. probably, only other plausible theory for me is his agent leaking it to try and force our hand or drag out a more preferable bidder (eg Man Utd if he wants to stay in England)

I can honestly say I never once thought our low bids were to unsettle players but rather the highest we'll ever go. Bit different when a club with a bottomless pit of money that can conjure massive sponsorship deals out of thin air (and backdate them) that gets them more commercial income than any club in Europe Well that's generally the end result, which is quite convenient for us. has it? Looking back our transfer business has tended to the taking advantage of contract situations be it running out (Sissoko or Gouffran) or clauses (Cabaye) only real case of unsettling a player was Debuchy that I can think of anyway in recent times anyway. Besides whats annoying me is the very public tapping up followed by lowball offer thats just dirty tricks

how often has this actually happened? Clubs seem reluctant to actually take advantage of it given how it could affect them as much as the guy they're nicking the guy off.

I can honestly say I never once thought our low bids were to unsettle players but rather the highest we'll ever go. Bit different when a club with a bottomless pit of money that can conjure massive sponsorship deals out of thin air (and backdate them) that gets them more commercial income than any club in Europe

FIFA/UEFA don't give half a shit about tapping up, was anything done to Barcelona with the very public and regular tapping up of Fabregas for over a year? Real Madrid with just about anybody? Harry Redknapp again just about anybody?

the theory is if he throws another tantrum about leaving we'd lower our asking price just to remove a bad influence on the dressing room. Reality however has Mike Ashley in the way so god only knows how that would work out. Can't see Ashley giving the first fuck in that respect. His price is his price, we don't know what it is but I highly doubt Ashley will knock a few million off just because Cabaye throws his toys out of the pram. as I said its the standard theory and it must have some basis in reality otherwise clubs wouldn't continue attempts to unsettle players but Ashley is hardly conventional in football club owner terms.

Alternatively he might get injured (see Falcao) or have a shit World Cup and never be worth as much ever again. He's 28 too, so only going one way from here. People on here might see £14m as derisory but it's still a lot of money and a £10m profit. in a sane market with a normal club bidding £14-15m is probably about right however its late jan, the most insane time of an insane transfer market and PSG are not a normal club.

I'd wonder if Blancs attempts to tap up other targets during the week had something to do with this bid tbh

the theory is if he throws another tantrum about leaving we'd lower our asking price just to remove a bad influence on the dressing room. Reality however has Mike Ashley in the way so god only knows how that would work out.

the relentless public tapping up by Blanc didn't work so go for the lowball offer to try and get it moving downwards price wise