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Very surprised to hear about the problems the fans faced on Saturday. The allocation was only 4,500 even though the stand has 7,000 seats and I went there a couple of times in the late 90s when they were still allowing 7,000 in there and it never felt unsafe. Dated yes, but not unsafe and we had zero issues. The only thing I can think of is that back then the away end would fill up gradually from 90 mins before kick off as the atmosphere inside the stadium would build whereas now people seem to prefer to stay in tne concourses much later to sing/drink and the away end fills up rapidly in the 15 mins prior to kick off.

Newcastle United never ever do anything the easy way so this won't happen!

He's reported to be on £100k a week. If that's the case he's going nowhere unless we heavily subsidise his wages and that's not really a road we want to be going down.

Can't believe how worried/worked up I'm getting over this tonight. I wasn't even like this before the 2 FA Cup finals, probably cos I knew we'd lose them both but still, hard to believe I'm 45 years old and this is without a doubt the best chance we've ever had of getting to a League Cup Semi Final in my Lifetime. Please just win.

The younger supporters did with his exploits in the likes of Blu Bambu etc. I think you'll find many the older generation were always a bit suspicious of him. Certainly my dad and his mates were and I still remember to this day being in the Three Bulls when Keegan was announced as returning as manager we were playing Stoke at home and the words I heard most from them were "publicity stunt". I will admit however that I was excited as were plenty others that night but my recollection was that it certainly wasn't universal.

So he gave you your longest unbroken top flight spell since the 50s, saved you from going bust and let's not forget 6 in a row marra. All things considered he was a very good owner for Sunderland. Yes for most of the time you were towards the bottom but that's still better than Sunderlands historical natural position. I think you've only had 3 top ten top flight finishes in the last 65 years.

What absolute nonsense you've posted on here tonight. Incredibly this latest piece isn't even at the top

You literally said on page 403 that this is "exactly the same craic as RTG" and that this place "just all seems like RTG to me like". If that's you not saying the 2 boards are comparable then that's fair enough but you should be able to see how people could make that conclusion.

I didn't misread anything. You said this place is like RTG and I corrected you and gave some good examples of why it isn't, but still you dig

He made himself popular by sacking Allardyce and bringing back Keegan. It lasted a few months then his true colours emerged which caused the change in supporters mood. He didn't invest a penny of his own money in the club. He bled it dry. Ellis Short ploughed in 100s of £millions of his own cash into Sunderland to give them their longest unbroken top flight run in the top flight since the 1950s. He deserved more appreciation. The 2 owners don't compare in terms of their investment or intentions.

Any need for this type of antagonism?? What makes you think I was referring to you?

It's just as bad on here apparently

You lot all loved Ellis Short when he wore a FTM pin badge. Some people are easily won over I suppose and then are just as quick to turn the other way. Think it's called Fickle or something like that.

Well you did like.

We're rivals ffs. You've got to expect some antagonism, goading etc, I'm really not sure what you'd expect, but if you think that's the same as outright racism and even death threats being issued then there isn't much reasoning with you on this matter so we should probably just leave it there.

All over the place. They eventually removed the thread to a padlocked part of the forum to escape any consequences. If you've deativated your account and don't bother with the place you wouldn't have seen it.

My point is that the general tone of this board is completely different to RTG where racsim has recently been openly encouraged and participated in even by its moderators. If I behaved like that on here I'd be righly removed in no time at all.

Skunkers was Skunkers. A totally separate entity to this board. I actually think it might have started off as a RTG spin off. It was outdated and died. It was nothing like it is here, and this is nothing like RTG for the examples I've given. No forum is going to be all sweetness and light and this place has no doubt had its moments but to compare it to RTG is ludicrous tbh.

It's not at all. Where's the racism on here? Where's the hatred? Our very own Paully recieved death threats so had to stop posting on RTG ffs. And you think it's exactly the same on here

RTG is proper vitriol and hatred. The NUFC thread turned so ugly they had to move it to a different area of the board as racism had also entered into the equasion (including by the mods). It's literally nothing like that on here

@TeddySAFCdo you post on RTG marra and if so what is your username?

Pretty much describes me, however it was a quid for a one year membership (think it was a bit more for lifetime) and I just paid the quid then never renewed, and tbh would never consider renewing again with it being run as it is, which is basically a TF old pals club.

It would more likely reduce capacity at SJP as things stand. Chelsea installed safe standing behind both goals at Stamford Bridge and lost 500 off their capacity as a result and Stamford Bridge is pretty similar to SJP in terms of their East Stand being built in the 1970s and the other 3 sides being redeveloped at the turn of the century.

Championship clubs tend to lose more money than L1 clubs due to operating costs being far higher. Losses of £12m when your turnover was less than £11m is a pretty big loss tbh.

Losses of £12m your last set of accounts showed?