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It's a nice thought but I know from first hand experience that they couldn't give a shite about bots/touts.

Honestly he typifies their fanbase. All over everything when things are going well and the second there's a blip they go into hiding. Things start going well again and they're back out all over everything again with no shame whatsoever.

Resident Mackem scuttled back under his rock then?

Chelseas is something like 58 years old now! I'd imagine we'd be early 50s.

Bizarrely away fans sound much louder outside the ground than in it. The noise they make travels straight over the East Stand and Gallowgate roofs. There's been occasions over the years where we've been getting battered with a few mins to go and I've made an early escape from the Gallowgate. From there even though you can clearly see the away fans singing you can't really hear them. Get past the Strawberry and down towards the old Labour Club and they sound very loud! Just down to the shite acoustics of SJP.

We used to be class at doing that. Not any more.

Seems to cost us a lot mind. Liverpool, Chelsea, tonight x 2. I like him but he costs a lot of goals. That's just a fact.

He does seem to cost us quite a few goals mind which seems to slip under the radar a bit.

My dad missing only his 3rd home game since 1991 tonight and it's purely down to the KO time. He never, ever leaves before the end regardless of the score but had to against Fulham the other week so he could get home and missed Mileys winner.

Absolutely staggering!! Honestly NUFC fans are the best at bending over and allowing themselves to be royally shafted without complaint. You just ask Mike Ashley.

Man City prices.....

There's even pairs available in the East Stand. Haven't seen that since the Mike Ashley & Steve Bruce years!

Arsenal and Spurs the most expensive in London my a mile these days. Spurs really struggling to sell tickets lately. CL and LC games they are seeing 20,000 empty seats and they've had to scrap their memebers only policy for buying tickets and make them available to everyone.

Season tickets in Chelseas East Stand cost £700 in the Lower tier and £1,095 in the Upper so not massively different. Their East Stand is also along the side of the pitch, not behind the goal.

First match I went to with my mates was £3. Would have been 1988. First season ticket was £45 (1991). That was for 23 home games so £1.95 per game).

3 reasons I won't be there; Ticket price. Kick off time (won't get home till 11.30 and that's if I can get on a bus and have to be up at 5am). Atmosphere won't be any better than my living room. I'm actually going into town at 4 for a few pints and will head back home in time to watch the match on the telly. Other reasons why people won't be attending will include; The weather. Skint in January. Loads of home games in a short space of time, all with good availability so can pick and choose.

The useless NUST should have been all over the price increases but as usual sat on their hands and did nowt. Absolute waste of time that lot.

Loads of £55 ones in the Leazes, Gallowgate and L7 next to the away fans. Even a few pairs knocking about. Bargain.

The Hull game that 90/91 season was good culminating in the pitch invasion at the end Sheff Wed just after Ossie arrived was good as well. FA Cup v Derby was canny and Forest in the same competition was excellent. 30,000 sell out under the lights guaranteed a brilliant atmosphere back then which was the case v Forest. Not so much the way now. Agree that season was generally poor for atmosphere but even then we had groups all around the ground that would be singing. The Corner, the Scoreboard, Milburn Stand Leazes wing, Leazes G (centre) section a group used to always gather next to the away fans and be singing. Obviously when there's only 12,000 there as there was for many games they shouldn’t be able to make as much noise as 52,000. 94-96 was nowhere near as good as 92-94 but some obvious reasons for that as fans had to get used to having to sit down at matches which resulted in Keegans Val Doonican comments. It also coincided with a sharp increase in ticket prices. I know so many lads of my age at the time (teenagers) who'd been at pretty much every home game under Jim Smith, Ossie and the early Keegan years who drifted away from 94 onwards due to either not wanting to sit down at the match or just no longer being able to afford to go.

It's all but died out this season. Think it's the clearest evidence in the shift of your crowd mentality. Back then the crowd felt they had a job to do. You were there to encourage your team on, especially when they were on the attack. Seems to be more of the attitude of people sitting back and wanting to be entertained now. Then again when they're asking you to part with 60 quid for a ticket you could argue that's fair enough.

It's all relative as expectations change as the atmosphere deteriorates season on season. A poor atmosphere back then would be seen as decent now. It's a vastly different crowd these days than it was in 95/96 there's no denying that. A lot more "touristy" type people, a lot more people who probably aren't all that arsed if truth be told, a lot more women (in 95/96 there were signs on the womens bog doors telling the men not to use them to beat the queues or they'd lose their season tickets. Now the queue for the womens is longer than the mens!). It's not just about the chanting. The crowd don't urge the team on like they used to. That roar that used to build as we went onto the attack doesn't happen anymore. It's far more passive these days. Goals aren't celebrated with the same enthusiasm either. My first season watching NUFC was 84/85. I still remember the noise. That was a noisy year. That what stands our more than anything. Yes we'd just been promoted to Division One and the crowd would have been up for it but that's what got me hooked. A young bairn going and sitting up in L7 for the first time these days isn't getting blown away by the atmosphere like I was back then. What I will say is that the atmosphere does peak and trough. 84/85 was excellent but it did quieten off season on season up until 90/91 which was awful (we only averaged 16k mind) then it really picked up back end of 91/92 when Keegan arrived. 92/93 was the best in the 41 years I've been going. Hard to believe but you had large sections of the East Stand that would sing, in both wings, then over in the Milburn Stand (Leazes Wing) that was very, very noisy. Now you don't get a peep out of either. I will say I thought it was excellent after the takeover in 21/22, and the season after when we finished 4th was better than it was when we were finishing 4th, 3rd, 5th under SBR in the early 00s. I'll say it till I'm blue in the face but the ballot has killed it. Any random can apply if they're happy to pay the membership. The obscene ticket prices this season has just compounded it. Yes there's exceptions to the rule but generally those people happy to pay £58-£97 a ticket won't be the type who'll want to stand up and sing.

Not as daft as West Ham

Forest announce plans to the the City Ground over 50,000; Nottingham Forest is delighted to confirm the submission of planning applications for the redevelopment of the City Ground. Our home for over 120 years will see a significant investment made by our owner, Evangelos Marinakis, to deliver a sustainable and iconic design which increases the stadium’s capacity to over 50,000. The redevelopment will be an integral part of the economic growth of the city and the wider region. The Club is grateful for the positive public engagement and overwhelming support shown for our proposals ahead of the planning submission. We would also like to thank to our key partners, Gleeds, KSS Design Group, Buro Happold, and Savills for their support to date. We look forward to working with the Mayor of the East Midlands, Rushcliffe Borough Council, Nottingham City Council and Nottinghamshire County Council, as well as our supporters and the wider community, to achieve a successful outcome in the near future.

You've basically described me there. I'm going out early doors on Wednesday to meet up with a lad I used to work with. He's a Yorkshireman and a massive Leeds fan. We'll have a few pints then he's got to be at the ground for 6pm as he's in corporate. From then I'll meet up with my usual matchday crowd and when they head up to the match I'll head home and watch it on the telly. I did the same yesterday. I know that there'll be loads of tickets up for resale all day Wednesday but tbh I'm not even tempted.

Watched it in the house with the bairn. When Gordon scored he turned to me and said that's probably the worst goal celebration I've seen from the fans, they're hardly cheering! I just said that's because just about everyone there is expecting it to be disallowed. Tbh I thought it was more clear cut at first glance and then when you look more carefully he's actually less offside that Wirtz was yet his goal was allowed to stand!