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Villa will be interesting today, they have Bayern at home mid-week, which will likely be their biggest game in a generation, and then Man United next week. So this is the sort of game people are expecting them to falter in with their eyes placed elsewhere, and this game not having the alure of the other two.

Right now? John Ruddy probably.

Lascelles is a club icon in my eyes like, from the post match interview in the relegation season, to captaining the club back to promotion, to survival and keeping the team together when the manager wouldn't understand Bruce, the shithouseing yellow cards when warming up in the Champions League campaign, to having Haaland and Mbappe in his pocket. It'd actually say he's in the top 5 most influential players for us in the last 20 year, I was tempted to say this century but that's probably too far

Zaragoza is the player who scored Unless this is a joke and i'm getting whooshed.

Wolves and Palace going down this season would be nice, both have been perennial boring mid-table teams for a while.

Thats well stupid from the Wolves defender like

Completely against the run of player, Leverkusen winning.

Bayern vs Bayer should be fun.

I'd wait a little bit before making that statement like. They have been batshit these past two years, and it's going to take more than what is essentially one good period of form under a new manager against teams currently sat in 8th, 13th, 14th, 17th and 20th, to prove to me otherwise.

Chelsea have had a really favorable set fixtures to start the season, their next 10 will define them as its a challenging run, if they can get 20-25 points, they'll be in for a good season:

Obsession? As in the people on here wanting them to lose?

Glasner may just regret turning down that Bayern approach

Obvs Arsenal score

We have a Non-League thread, and a "Other 19" thread, only right that we have an EFL one. West Brom who have started the season so well, but that Sheffield Wednesday game proves how competitive the Championship is. Meanwhile Birmingham in League One have started to look as imperious as people where predicting in Pre-Season. Also, ol' Stephen Clemence's Barrow is losing to Gillingham after a good start to the season.

They'll still win, but if Arsenal don't after last week, it'll be glorious

Will be something like that I reckon.

When I clicked on that, I was expecting it to be the Joelinton one. The Gordon foul is as stonewally as you're going to get. "Controversial" fucking hell

Thought he was quality today, bar the goal, which I guess knocks him down a few points. Haaland didn't have a sniff all game. Plus we now know that push come to shove, he can play as a really high pressing CF, after that jaunt he had in the first half

Man of the match for me, he was utter quality, both with his passing and more importantly his defensive work, completely nullified both Silva and Savinho.

Given Man City where unbeaten in 28 games in the League coming in to it going back to last December. That is as good a result and performance as you can realistically ask for.

Fantastic result and performance that, defensively we where so so solid, Haaland barely had a sniff. That needs to be the template going forward.

Thought that was a good performance, and our best half of the season so far, just a shame we're playing the best team in the world and one moment I'm lapse of concentration and they're ahead.

Any chance this is a 5-3-2 do we think?

Lad is going to be fired up today:

Not to defend the Premier League, but from what I remember (and this is from an article about 6 months back so may be wrong) the reason it's taking so long and why it's not as easy to integrate into our game compared to others is due to the way Nike design the ball, which means the chip that the Champions League ball has implanted (Adidas manufacture) can't be used. So they're having to create an entirely new system that they had to go out to tender for. Given Nike are being replaced with Puma from next season anyway, I'm not sure why they don't just wait and get the system integrated correctly.