Andymc1

The season lasts until May. Let's see where we end up - top 10 isn't a given.

The best way I've summed up my position so far maybe, has been to post those lineups from September of the last 3 seasons in the AP thread. In each case, our squad has been discernibly stronger, i.e; we have, in some way or another, improved our personnel each year, whether the improvements have come in January or whatever. If by this September that hasn't happened again, and the 'how strong is our squad?' graph has levelled off or gone downhill, then I'll want to know why. I'm not interested in what we have or haven't done in the last X windows- are the players on the pitch at the start of each season better than they were at the start of the season before? The answer in the last few years has been 'yes'. I fully expect some action over the summer. If it doesn't happen I'll be as p*ssed off as you. Well, nearly. You seem to get very p*ssed off. Let's not speculate about what might or might not happen in the Summer. Look at the here and now - it's s**** and you know it. Also, your argument is absolutely invalid as the clubs in and around us have improved considerably in the same time frame whilst we lag behind. Finally, it's been a natural improvement due to the fact we were only promoted again in 09/10 season. The here and now is that we've just sold our best player for loads of money and haven't replaced him yet. Obviously what we do in the next window is very relevant. Yes it's a natural improvement but it's still an improvement (and I do think we've improved relative to other sides too, most definitely), and the question for me is will it continue? If yes: good. If no: bad. The last player we sold for loads of cash was Andy Carroll - how long did it take to replace him? I'd suggest we still haven't considering our current striking options. Out of interest where do you think we'll finish this season? Remy, Gouffran and de Jong aren't so bad I don't think? I'd love to keep them all and replace Shola to boot. I think we'll finish in 8th or 9th. Gouffran? Yeah, he's as much a striker as he is a winger. And the other two aren't ours

The best way I've summed up my position so far maybe, has been to post those lineups from September of the last 3 seasons in the AP thread. In each case, our squad has been discernibly stronger, i.e; we have, in some way or another, improved our personnel each year, whether the improvements have come in January or whatever. If by this September that hasn't happened again, and the 'how strong is our squad?' graph has levelled off or gone downhill, then I'll want to know why. I'm not interested in what we have or haven't done in the last X windows- are the players on the pitch at the start of each season better than they were at the start of the season before? The answer in the last few years has been 'yes'. I fully expect some action over the summer. If it doesn't happen I'll be as p*ssed off as you. Well, nearly. You seem to get very p*ssed off. Let's not speculate about what might or might not happen in the Summer. Look at the here and now - it's s**** and you know it. Also, your argument is absolutely invalid as the clubs in and around us have improved considerably in the same time frame whilst we lag behind. Finally, it's been a natural improvement due to the fact we were only promoted again in 09/10 season. The here and now is that we've just sold our best player for loads of money and haven't replaced him yet. Obviously what we do in the next window is very relevant. Yes it's a natural improvement but it's still an improvement (and I do think we've improved relative to other sides too, most definitely), and the question for me is will it continue? If yes: good. If no: bad. The last player we sold for loads of cash was Andy Carroll - how long did it take to replace him? I'd suggest we still haven't considering our current striking options. Out of interest where do you think we'll finish this season? Ashley already decided it doesn't matter when we didn't buy a replacement for Cabaye. Basically, the season ended at Christmas and if you paid for a season ticket tough s***. That's the point I was getting towards. If he accepts the decision to wait until the Summer to sign someone then he is happy to have a terrible January-May results wise, something that I just can't fathom as a football fan.

The best way I've summed up my position so far maybe, has been to post those lineups from September of the last 3 seasons in the AP thread. In each case, our squad has been discernibly stronger, i.e; we have, in some way or another, improved our personnel each year, whether the improvements have come in January or whatever. If by this September that hasn't happened again, and the 'how strong is our squad?' graph has levelled off or gone downhill, then I'll want to know why. I'm not interested in what we have or haven't done in the last X windows- are the players on the pitch at the start of each season better than they were at the start of the season before? The answer in the last few years has been 'yes'. I fully expect some action over the summer. If it doesn't happen I'll be as p*ssed off as you. Well, nearly. You seem to get very p*ssed off. Let's not speculate about what might or might not happen in the Summer. Look at the here and now - it's s**** and you know it. Also, your argument is absolutely invalid as the clubs in and around us have improved considerably in the same time frame whilst we lag behind. Finally, it's been a natural improvement due to the fact we were only promoted again in 09/10 season. The here and now is that we've just sold our best player for loads of money and haven't replaced him yet. Obviously what we do in the next window is very relevant. Yes it's a natural improvement but it's still an improvement (and I do think we've improved relative to other sides too, most definitely), and the question for me is will it continue? If yes: good. If no: bad. The last player we sold for loads of cash was Andy Carroll - how long did it take to replace him? I'd suggest we still haven't considering our current striking options. Out of interest where do you think we'll finish this season?

We won't have signed a permanent first team player in 18 months whilst letting numerous players leave. That's to moderation as aneroxia is to weight watchers. I don't care if they're permanent or not. Loan players still play for your team. If we signed the entire Spain side on loan we'd improve. Obviously it's better to make permanent signings but to completely disregard loans for the sake of a factoid isn't on. I thought you were all about the long term plan? Loans are shit for the longevity you crave.

The best way I've summed up my position so far maybe, has been to post those lineups from September of the last 3 seasons in the AP thread. In each case, our squad has been discernibly stronger, i.e; we have, in some way or another, improved our personnel each year, whether the improvements have come in January or whatever. If by this September that hasn't happened again, and the 'how strong is our squad?' graph has levelled off or gone downhill, then I'll want to know why. I'm not interested in what we have or haven't done in the last X windows- are the players on the pitch at the start of each season better than they were at the start of the season before? The answer in the last few years has been 'yes'. I fully expect some action over the summer. If it doesn't happen I'll be as p*ssed off as you. Well, nearly. You seem to get very p*ssed off. Let's not speculate about what might or might not happen in the Summer. Look at the here and now - it's shite and you know it. Also, your argument is absolutely invalid as the clubs in and around us have improved considerably in the same time frame whilst we lag behind. Finally, it's been a natural improvement due to the fact we were only promoted again in 09/10 season.

He has a valid point, Football is a business now, i hate to say it but it is. We do need to be concerned about it, and tbf to Ashley he has done ok with that part. Just my opinion of it. But what we now have is a business and no football club, a club losing it soul and identity, it so skewed the other way it's ridiculous. Frankly it looks like Ashley isn't interested in as a club to win things with, we're just a vehicle for his jumble sale shops. It's still competitive sport. The team with the best profit margins don't win things. That's not how professional sport works.

It's fucking football, nobody should give a shit about finances. I want to see the team play well and we can't do that with Pardew - there's only one solution and that's to get rid of him. I bet you're the kind of bloke who goes back to the pub after losing 3-2 and giving it the old "ah well, it's the taking part that counts". A lack of competitiveness makes me sad

Did I say that? You disagreed with a post and then suggested that the alternative way of thinking was to spend £200m.

Under Keegan when we beat Man Utd 5-0 or Spurs 7-1, under Robson when we beat Man Utd 4-3, Leeds 4-3 or broke the London hoodoo at Arsenal - did you worry about the balance sheet or did you manage to enjoy what you had witnessed? I enjoyed what I seen on the pitch on those occasions and couldn't give a shit what the balance sheet said because I'm a fan of a football club, not a fan of a business.

We haven't signed a player on a permanent deal for 2 whole transfer windows. Do you conclude that we are making sufficient effort? Can you answer that question please? I see you edited it Yes, because you refused to answer a basic question as I put it in the original post. The point from my original post about you being an imbecile still stands. Well you can p*ss off then can't you? Deep down you know you're wrong and not spending a penny in two successive transfer windows does not represent an effort to improve. Despite your best attempts to believe different, you know that is the truth.

Who on here would keep him if a new owner came in? Name and shame please... I'd imagine you wouldn't be 100% behind a change in manager and would probably give it the old "give him a chance under a new owner". Ian W would be in the same camp and this trollmache character would support him for shits and giggles. ToonPack would complete the list, that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's another couple of heed the baals out there.

We haven't signed a player on a permanent deal for 2 whole transfer windows. Do you conclude that we are making sufficient effort? Can you answer that question please? I see you edited it Yes, because you refused to answer a basic question as I put it in the original post. The point from my original post about you being an imbecile still stands.

For all maths/stats geeks, read the book "The numbers game: Everything you know about football is wrong". I quite enjoyed it and stats don't bother me too much. HP, you'd love it but I presume you've already read it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/norwich-aware-of-potential-candidates-who-could-replace-chris-hughton-9133891.html

Well when a club sells their best player, they rarely get the same level of player. Safe to assume the replacement won't be as good but we have to try and build the team back up to the standard it was with Cabaye. When you lose your best player, it's never a quick fix, takes time to rebuild. Yes, rinse and repeat.. They'll buy a replacement and potentially buy some more players but they will flog them on again. The team/club will not move foward as they are not arsed about building a team. Its about making profit from players sales. But didn't you know, if it wasn't done this way we'd be like Portsmouth.

We haven't signed a player on a permanent deal for 2 whole transfer windows. Do you conclude that we are making sufficient effort? Can you answer that question please?

You just there for a quick visit to have a look around to see if a Summer holiday is feasible?

We haven't signed a player on a permanent deal for 2 whole transfer windows. Do you conclude that we are making sufficient effort you absolute f***ing imbecile? Not responding to that. Arsehole. Your trip to Croatia must be fascinating.

We haven't signed a player on a permanent deal for 2 whole transfer windows. Do you conclude that we are making sufficient effort you absolute fucking imbecile?

In the last 8 years Arsenal have won nothing, they already had a strong team to begin with as opposed to a team that had won the Championship. No one is asking us to spend a fortune but over the last 5 years we've made a £45 million profit in transfers. I fully expect that to be spent as well as a little bit extra (TV Money particularly), like every other team (including Arsenal) does.

"I don't have up to date stats"

In Wengers tenure, Arsenal have not made a profit from transfer dealings.

Really? You can't see why we wouldn't sign him. Clue is in your avatar.