Eddy Chibas

Don't think Rafa will get much of a say, in light of the recently released accounts (with our creative book keeping skills on show). That should rightly be the final straw which breaks Rafa's back, and tbh I don't think Ashley will give a flying fuck.

I no longer enjoy (because of our non-ambition) when an emerging talent, like Lascelles, has a cracking break-out season. Very bitter sweet. Couple this with the likelihood we'll accept the fee over multiple installments, and not as a single lump sum, a replacement will be sourced from the bargain basement.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/0690afca-ce6f-316a-8a7c-ffd99d262353 A damning & fair reflection of the working conditions (on home soil) provided by a sporting goods chain *which at one time was the sole hold-out* and refused to sign up to a universal agreement (within the sports apparel industry) designed to end the exploitation of sweatshop child labour in Asia. *or still is (?)

Ramos' contact on Salah (locking up an arm, controlling Salah's fall) reminds me of the sort of stunt Zaza Pachulia pulls in the NBA. Some will write it off as accidental, a clumsy tangle, but I think there's some 'dirty veteran savvy' (applied to a key opposition player) taking place there. The heat he's copping is warranted imho

Already knew that going by the previous company names ie. the vetoed casino project. So thanks for the fucking clarification lol. Still interesting that another Yes Man has now connected to the club, although this one is closer to the Ashley's roost. I think this maybe an indication that he'll now sell the land as part of a deal to sell the club. It's another associate of Ashley's with their fingers in the pie - not for my liking. For now I'm leaning towards your first theory.

Already knew that going by the previous company names ie. the vetoed casino project. So thanks for the fucking clarification lol. Still interesting that another Yes Man has now connected to the club, although this one is closer to the Ashley's roost.

Interesting that Mike's future son-in-law (likely), a property developer, is a director of this entity. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03304860 ..... also raised in the thread, attached to The Mag's article concerning the 55m lease being paid by the club to ?

He shouldn't have to be 'fighting' in the first place, for some basic conditions. Highlights the disconnect, between Rafa (and any manager with an iota of professional integrity) & the owner, we already know is there.

Would be an honour to once more allow Liverpool a few years to fill our coffers and pay another large transfer fee, in instalments.

Ashley (or Justin Barnes): What's the valuation Lee? Charnley: Twenty-seven mill. Ashley (or JB): Okay, bid 14.72 mill..... it will be rejected. ^^^^^ Straight from the "Shaft Kevin Keegan" playbook.

this is no surprise to anyone though, you can sell 2 players for £55m but you're only likely to get £11m per season back or whatever it will be...as dave said it's ashley's own insistence on this bullshit that's the problem This cashflow shortfall, by not receiving a large lump sum (in a single season), and insisting on paying for all incoming players in full conveniently relegates us to the bargain bin (in comparison to what other clubs are spending on a single player) by default. It's disgusting.

A 27m striker (in Cenk Tosun) reduced to feeding on limited scraps, is another indictment on Allardyce's 'drossball' as coined in quotes above. Tosun appeared frustrated as hell when I saw them play. Still he's efficient in front of goal. Looking forward to seeing what he can deliver, if Everton hire a manager who likes to keep the ball on the deck (and not isolate a striker, and use them as lump-ball battering ram).

Go after Barnes. Charnley (whilst out of his depth) just signs the cheques these days imo. Barnes reportedly is MA's deal breaker/delayer/blocker et al. U wot m8? Rafa had no issues (with deals being stonewalled & delayed) during his first transfer window, preceeding Barnes' arrival in Dec '17 (the Jan transfer window, in the Champo). The last three windows have been clusterfucks, which even saw Rafa plead for funds to be released to acquire Murphy's signature. Surely it's no coincidence lol........... I'm not ableist, but nice try. Edit: and yeah, you can fire a Whoooshhhh my way.

Go after Barnes. Charnley (whilst out of his depth) just signs the cheques these days imo. Barnes reportedly is MA's deal breaker/delayer/blocker et al. U wot m8? Rafa had no issues (with deals being stonewalled & delayed) during his first transfer window, preceeding Barnes' arrival in Dec '17 (the Jan transfer window, in the Champo). The last three windows have been clusterfucks, which even saw Rafa plead for funds to be released to acquire Murphy's signature. Surely it's no coincidence

Go after Barnes. Charnley (whilst out of his depth) just signs the cheques these days imo. Barnes reportedly is MA's deal breaker/delayer/blocker et al.

Ya, playing the victim card & trolling the supporter base, again.

Kia Joorabchian (I think still represents him) is adept at securing big money deals for his Brazilian contingent. Hard to see us competing for his signature.

Yup, his connections & coaching pedigree (and that of his offsiders) has to be a drawcard when dipping into the loan market too. Especially when it comes to borrowing & blooding promising youngsters from clubs (like Chelsea) who have stockpiled that talent (where first team opportunities are limited, for now). I don't think that is what is being inferred. Sounds like they are trying to pressure Rafa into committing early by laying any blame for failing to get in his transfer targets at the uncertainty of his own contract situation. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but he should flip the table on them and seek black on white assurances before committing. In any case, the mind games will be unbearable this summer. Wish the fat cunt would just sell up and leave already. If there's an air of uncertainty hanging over the management situation (and the first team coaching set-up), whereby it's easier on his bank balance for Rafa to quit during the final year of his contract, then we're not really that attractive a loan destination. I think Rafa would have dipped into the loan market again, utilized his Chelsea connections once more. The club might well remind him of that, as a strong-arm tactic (to get him to re-sign). To clarify, it will much easier for the club to lay blame on Rafa's doorstep, if any potential loan moves (involving cracking youngsters) fall through due to the uncertainty hanging over the first team's coaching set-up. I believe any gun being held to hos head, mindgames to force him into committing, doesn't solely apply to closing permanent transfer deals.

Yup, his connections & coaching pedigree (and that of his offsiders) has to be a drawcard when dipping into the loan market too. Especially when it comes to borrowing & blooding promising youngsters from clubs (like Chelsea) who have stockpiled that talent (where first team opportunities are limited, for now).

It's kinda no coincidence, that this statement (re: Douglas' tweet, and I assume a question was posed at the forum) was made, considering the stadium's 'protected' status expires in 2019. I believe the NUST's application was approved in '14 - I assume NUST will re-apply. Sure there are obstacles in place, concerning redevelopment and the criteria which must be met. Anybody must have rocks in their head if Ashley hasn't at least thoroughly explored all options, and crunched the numbers before ultimately ruling it out because it doesn't make business/commercial sense (to him).

"Commercial" sense, to Mike Ashley? Suggests to me that Ashley has at least explored that option (of making a small fortune through developing the land Vs fireselling the club without a ground, for a big loss.... and whether he escapes with a profit) and crunched the numbers. Nothing is ever off limits, with this man. The land the ground is on isn't his to sell/develop. True, but I wonder if the council would jump at (approve) a major commercial project (involving a consortium headed by MA) that would generate a ton of local jobs ie. a multi-level retail complex/entertainment precinct, with direct to public transport/rail facilities. It would be naive to think that Mike Ashley hasn't at least explored the feasibility of selling SJP, considering that he has been branching out into some major land (commercial) development projects as of late.

From a recent Mark Douglas tweet, from the club/fan forum. "Commercial" sense, to Mike Ashley? Suggests to me that Ashley has at least explored that option (of making a small fortune through developing the land Vs fireselling the club without a ground, for a big loss.... and whether he escapes with a profit) and crunched the numbers. Nothing is ever off limits, with this man.

Not sure he's better than Lascelles and Lejeune. Signed to a six year contract last year too, and won't come cheap at the end of any loan spell. Loan (with the option to buy) would not compute with Justin Barnes.

Flew in to tell Rafa he can have what he needs. Then meeting Charnley to emphasis 'TRY' to give Rafa what he needs. ......... and throws a wink at Justin Barnes, who slyly chuckles and returns the gesture with a playful elbow nudge.

Justin 'Transfer Blocker' Barnes did vetoe a previous loan deal that was lined up by Rafa. There was a buy option attached to it - I think that was reported by Mark Douglas. Safe to say that cost (of the transfer fee, to make the move permanent) killed the deal.