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This is pretty much how things should operate aye, don't get me wrong though. If a manger has a player in mind we should obviously look into that as we should do if a player surfaces his his own network. I think what can't happen is the manager dictates which player he wants and it's a bust if it can't get over the like (thinking about Guehi here).

Your right Decky, the manager does know his own squad better than anyone, but in terms of recruitment the manager shouldn't know the hot prospect in Spain better than the recruitment team, if he does our recruitment isn't fit for purpose. Ultimately they need to work together, one of the challenges is that managers goals are short term by nature and to a certain degree this has to be curtailed.

No but they need one to kick the can

Hope down on his quota so knocking up yet another stadium article to get him right.

Your dancing around it man. If the manager has final say on transfers (he does) and has a preference for premier league proven players (this is arguable) then what do you do? Don't get me wrong, no silver bullet exists in our current situation but you keep expressing a different preference which is fine, we all have different preferences but we have what we have.

It means precisely that man. If Eddie doesn't like the fit the deal doesn't happen. When you add that factor to a preference for premier league proven players it creates certain evident constraints, the pool becomes small and the prices become higher as a result of that As I said earlier, we have to hope that we've learnt from last summer and and are willing to be more flexible, if not I imagine something will give.

From what has been written Eddie retains final say on all transfers, a privilege you might argue he earned. I think, we have to look forward as the past is pretty evident at this stage and hope Eddie's willing to be more flexible. When the ownership came in we were in a position where we had to put the cart before the horse and to be fair we benefitted from this approach for a long time. Obviously the wheels came off and we have to hope Ross Wilson is competent and can work on tandem with Eddie.

I agree and your right but this is precisely where the structural issue hits doesn't it? So you either pie Eddie and his Nephew off and hire someone who doesn't have that level of influence or your hobble along as you are. Take your pick?

But this is the thing. What committee exist when Eddie has two votes plus ownership backing? If the committee is Eddie and Andy Howe, Nickson and a DOF who do you think breaks the tie? I wrote long ago we have structural issues and this is one of the elements I was referring too, Eddie has/had credit in the bank and so at that stage was getting his way.

I assume that they knew it would be tricky but they thought what was in place could handle it. After all, at that stage we were all in on Eddie and wanted to give him what he wanted which we did. Ultimately the talent identification was off.

Serious question, what do you think would have changed if we had some temporary set up in place?

Not to be pedantic but he was hired as interim transfer consultant. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/12497903/nick-hammond-newcastle-hire-former-celtic-and-reading-director-of-football-as-transfer-consultant-on-short-term-deal

We're hired a singular consultant right? I'm assuming we felt it wasn't needed on this occasion as we've obviously transacted with our current team. At that point we were starting from essentially zero.

Which clubs have done that? We were obviously slow but I don't recall many clubs hiring interims . Some times you have to just accept that the recruitment team got it wrong.

I'm not sure what the alternative was at that time? Imagine the leverage Eddie had at that moment

He's on a massive salary as well, Juve have been trying to shift him for awhile.

If that information was correct then yes that would be correct. It was never confirmed though by the club at least.

Yeah I had about that in my mind originally as well, it's why I went to check on other somewhat comparable players. I couldn't see who would pay us 70m+ is why I reassessed. But then again I was certain Bayern wouldn't cough up for Diaz but in the end they did

I was trying to guage how much I reckon hes worth and I think Madeuke offers a decent figure for benchmark, he went for 52m. I reckon Gordon is better than him so I 65m minimum is probably where I land.

What we mad at him about? As long as it he doesn't go on strike and we get a good fee it should be pretty amicable I think.

Classic

Your literally the person who does that the most on here Of course I dont work for Chelsea and I don't know this it just appears to be unlikely as they have other assets whom theyvd actually amortizatised more.

They won't be shifting Emegha, Jackson and Gui will likely be flogged

Yeah it's modern football and it's on us. Given how poorly we handed the Isak situation it's was always likely to make us easy marks unfortunately. As with Isak it's important to remember Gordon is under a long contract and we don't have to sell regardless of weather Gordon likes it or not. Nobody forced him to sign that contract.

It's always been normal honestly it's just much more of a media circus now. plus everything is conducted via intermediaries to avoid any sort of rule breach. Obviously there's a way to do it as well. (Once the season has ended and with an understanding the player is for sale)