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Squad filler in a position we don’t need, I’m not sure man.

I don’t know if we are, I’m just repeating what Waugh said in his article, which was we need to sell before the end of June to be compliant.

We don’t currently have one so I imagine the start date of the deal could be today.

Anchoring is essentially a salary cap which is a big no no in the eyes of the PFA (rightfully so). I do wonder though, how come Anchoring is the line but FFP isn’t.

Wonder if it will be announced with them new kit unveiling. Waugh mentioned we are currently in breach of FFP so i wonder if this is our get out of jail free card

He’d be demented to choose Chelsea over Arsenal.

Sesko seems to be Arsenals number one target.

The Athletic hinted we would be open to selling Minteh this summer which I found interesting.

I see your train of thought, and wouldn’t be against it if we kept Wilson so he’d be a third choice. That being said I’m desperate to get shot of Wilson so maybe that influences my thinking.

Problem with this kind of deal is it a massive step down from Isak to him and he’s a player who won’t improve either.

No way the league would distribute this money to the lower leagues, not a chance. Absolutely but realistically not many can compete, it’s one thing to spend 200m in a window but it figures doubled and spend increased faster than the clubs valuations did then owners would be running for the hill, the smart ones would be looking to sell before this ever became a thing.

And that has a huge bearing on the pyramid structure. You could totally see us and City getting into an arms race and the problem which then occurs is the gap between the bottom feeders of the premier league and that of the championship sides becomes even wider. Essentially you get promoted and have zero chance to compete because the wealth gap becomes even wider than it is presently.

What we will find out in 2 weeks is separate from the charges though. It’s a specific challenge to the related party restrictions put in place after our takeover.

the Athletic mentioned a summer budget of about what we spend last year. Also interest in relegated players? Other than Trafford can anyone think of others we might hold an interest in?

I don’t think it’s about going the city way in particular, I mean we didn’t do the Robinho thing when we had the headroom too Not to put words in your mouth but what your kind of saying is your perfectly satisfied with being also rans at best. With the current rules it’s almost impossible for us to win the league and it is impossible for us to be successful on a consistent basis. I’m not sure why you’d want to sell us short for some form of hollow morale victory. (Every club buys the league and we are still owned by the Saudis).

I think so, the problem with my proposal is your giving very large historical balances to clubs to spend and let’s be frank a lot simply can’t afford it so you’re basically sanctioning massive over leverage. You’d want guarantees in place so the owners are on the hook for the spend but they simply wouldn’t agree. And I doff my cap to those sneaky so called big six clubs who forced footballs version of Brexit it on us, they played an absolute blinder and really lined their pockets with that master stroke.

The difference in house from the Bruno and Isak camps is fascinating mind.

But that’s the issue Yorks, the horse has already bolted and by bringing in further rules all your doing is entrenching advantages gain when things were the Wild West. It’s the opposite of competitive balance. Don’t get me wrong, unfettered spending is also the enemy of competitive or balance which is why my proposal above would eradicate that as well.

Absolutely, it’s why coming up with something fair is easy but implementation is impossible. Fair would be. Calculate who’s spend the most historically and work out what inflation for football was and assign the amount which would bring parity to each club (so maybe we’ve spent 1b less total than the highest spender this would be our Historic FFP balance to use as we see fit). Second thing would be to work out an annual budget all clubs are bonded too and boom you have a fair-ish setup. (It’s still not fair as it’s likely inflation of player prices would jump after you do this) but it’s as close to fair as can achieved imo.

Luxury tax is an idea, I’m not so keen personally because your encouraging transfer of funds between rivals for essentially nothing. Imagine us paying City in an attempt to catch them because we “over spent”. I think one of the reasons we’re ended up where we are is the protectionist rules are the most agreeable to majority. You can’t put the lid back on the amount of money in the game which in itself is a problem for a lot of Owners/shareholders as they are now actually priced out.

I think your logic is somewhat flawed, owners wealth has always been the pre determining factor to success in football; for as long as I can remember at least. I want competitive balance too but FMV and FFP are the wrong tools to accomplish that goal especially as the rules aren’t consistent both domestically and in continental competitions.

Your looking at it through the wrong lens, most of the clubs don’t benefit from related party deals so obviously they want to stop those that do. The members aren’t so bothered about with competitive (see us under Ashley) what they are bothered about is money and they will protect their piece of the pie no matter.

Agree and instead of creating regulations to level the playing field, they created rules designed to protect the biggest clubs and make them impossible to challenge. Ultimately they had the chance and acted in self interest I hope city blow the corrupt show apart.

IF Apt rules are deemed unlawful and the rule is removed and IF our owners truly want us to be the best then our FFP worries will be a thing of the past. Two big assumptions at this stage mind.

Given city let us down in the cup final it seems they want to make amends with this Jokes aside, it’s embarrassing it’s come to this. Let’s just make rules which allow everyone to compete on an even footing.