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I think in these and Dubravka's cases they at least were decent for us at one point and were part of the team that got us promoted and then helped secure our status as a Premier League team (despite Ashley's best efforts). So in that sense I don't mind the great servant moniker. Yeah as a group they're mostly not good enough now but that's not their fault. Ashley is responsible for most of them still being here. There's plenty of players this doesn't apply to mind.

tbf I doubt even on here many of us want Trippier playing at LB.

We've already said goodbye to him.

That would actually be better ffs.

I mean he actually subbed Foden this time so that's progress I guess?

Not sure I agree. Just a case of Denmark are better than Serbia.

Did you watch the Serbia game?

Nor Palmer.

Gordon isn't getting any minutes this tournament is he?

I'm sorry. Commentator said it's hard to play against a back 5 that sits so deep. Haven't they spent most of the match in our half?

I mean we were shit in th first match with obvious problems with our lineup. We are shit again with the same lineup this time. What a shock!

Whilst I agree with this point in principal I don't know if a tournament with as few games as this gives you that luxury. Foden/TAA were just so obviously not working I don't see what he intends to find out by trying it again.

I'm getting these vibes from Gordon these days.

Back to the Championship for them then.

But I do agree

The last thing you'll have seen here is people claiming Gordon would have fixed everything.

I mean most managers will go into a game with a reasonable idea of what subs they're planning to make it things are going to plan. But Eddie can make changes on the hoof if he needs to. Let's not compare him to Southgate.

That volley pass was one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in a while.

See even then I'm not convinced. I think we flattered to deceive a little bit. Apart from the goal (which was a very good goal) we didn't really create much. I'm all for looking for the positives, growing into the tournament, etc, but we go through this every time with Southgate. We look underwhelming in the groups, expect better in the knockouts, and then just lose to the first sign of decent opposition. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see why this time is going to be any different.

If you've got two players who are arguably your best players but they share a position then I think one needs to make way for the other. Especially when the alternative clearly isn't working. Southgate seems unable to make that call. And the problems with the team were obvious before kick off and it borne out pretty much exactly as we expected. I thought that was a very poor display. We barely threatened then apart from 2 chances with some of the most exciting attacking talent we've had available in a long time. I mean yes we won so how poor could it be really? But he's not been able to get the best out of these players for a while now and it doesn't bode well for the rest of the tournament.

I wanted him gone 5 or 6 years ago.

I mean the obvious issues with this team were clear to see before the game even started.

I mean based on this and the last game we have no chance of winning this tournament do we?

Back in the days of champ manager 2 you could take the England job whilst staying with your club. Does this happen anymore? Did it ever happen or was it a game thing