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Sorry not going along with these conspiracy theories. Let's just wait until the 30th, but I honestly think that's a bit far fetched mind. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a f***ing good idea. And do you really believe that will happen, honestly? I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. But I'm open to listening to your argument. It's pure fantasy is my argument. Well then, for my sake, please explain which bit is unrealistic. Everything as it won't happen. That doesn't mean it is unrealistic. I don't think it will happen either, I just said I wouldn't be surprised. I'm asking you why it is unrealistic, not if it will happen. To me if it won’t happen it’s unrealistic. No consortium is going to accept Ashley making money from having control of advertising, sponsorship, merchandise yet not putting anything into the club. Where is the money going to come from to improve the club when it’s going to Ashley. Buying players and paying wages is not cheap you know. Ashley then to buy the club back for an additional 100 million is nonsense when he can just keep the club to himself and pocket any fees as he will only be getting 250 to then pay back 350. Just does not make business sense as the money from advertising etc.. is not as much as some on here think it is for a start look at the accounts. To improve that any new consortium would need full control to make this happen. To improve the team they will also need to invest, yet with your thinking good money to use on this would be going to Ashley. Him buying it back was just me beig lazy. An easy way to explain how they get their profit. An insurance, if you like.

Sorry not going along with these conspiracy theories. Let's just wait until the 30th, but I honestly think that's a bit far fetched mind. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a f***ing good idea. And do you really believe that will happen, honestly? I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. But I'm open to listening to your argument. It's pure fantasy is my argument. Well then, for my sake, please explain which bit is unrealistic. Everything as it won't happen. That doesn't mean it is unrealistic. I don't think it will happen either, I just said I wouldn't be surprised. I'm asking you why it is unrealistic, not if it will happen.

I've got no interest in what a journalist thinks, he's a fucking journalist, i'm interested in what he knows, due to the privelge that being a journalist affords him. He's already stated that he knows but can't say, so he can fuck off, for me.

Sorry not going along with these conspiracy theories. Let's just wait until the 30th, but I honestly think that's a bit far fetched mind. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a f***ing good idea. And do you really believe that will happen, honestly? I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. But I'm open to listening to your argument. It's pure fantasy is my argument. Well then, for my sake, please explain which bit is unrealistic.

Sorry not going along with these conspiracy theories. Let's just wait until the 30th, but I honestly think that's a bit far fetched mind. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a f***ing good idea. And do you really believe that will happen, honestly? I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. But I'm open to listening to your argument.

Sorry not going along with these conspiracy theories. Let's just wait until the 30th, but I honestly think that's a bit far fetched mind. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fucking good idea.

Choco Liebnitez! Choco Liebnitez! Choco Liebniteeezzz Choco Liebniteeezzz

Funny that, my scouse mate, who is on holiday in Portugal has just text me to say he's just been sat in a pub with the most miserable mag he evr met. Sy's he never once expressed any love for his club. Said he's never met a football fan like it.

Say the club is worth £350million, he'd only need 10 individuals/investment groups to invest £25 million each, to sell for £250M. A ten year deal whereby he keeps all the bnefit he now gets, and guarentees to buy the club back for £350M (allowing for inflation) in ten years time. It's probably a better investment than govt. bonds.

Rafa Leibenitz. Just call me choco.

If CUNT can sell the club for £100 mill profit, and keep all the benefits that represent the only reason he wanted the club n the first place, then he's done alright, in his eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if BZG had offered the asking price for the club, lock stock and both barrels, so CUNT has got together a group of his cronies to buy the club at a knock down price, and leave him free to build his empire. The likes of Kenyon would probably be well up for something like that.

He's got children.

If he's got nowt to report he should just shut the fuck up. It doesn't take a degree in journalism to assess that a man whose contract expires in 9 days, is probably leaving. But that is the state of journalism these days. They've nowt to report if nobody tells them anything they want reported, but they have to keep producing content.

Does nobody appreciate the lemon puff FFS?

Nah people should definitely be accountable for what they post online. But people need to be fucking sensible or the whole thing goes to shit. There is nothing worthy of discussion in the two videos I've seen, shared on here. People need to get a grip. Don't go scouring the internet for things to whinge about. Other than that, spot on.

Disagree. This has to be the weirdest ever thread I've seen. We've gone from takeover, Sonyas bits, biscuits, marmite, Bovril.......this thread is history in the making. One future generations will read and marvel at. A time when NUFC have just won the world soccer/football championship will be reflected in this awesome thread that will have reached a zillion pages......... (Oh, and I used to have a Bovril drink at half time in SJP in the 60's. Still love the stuff.....rock on boys! Oh aye. The half-time cup of Bovril was synonyous with a visit to SJP up until SJH took over. I'm sure it's back on the menu these days.

I'm not. I grew up poor, and only ever got poor chocolate. As soon as I broke free from my parent's crushing austerity, I bought better chocolate. And on the subject of biscuits (we were talking about cakes, but never mind) anybody that claims you can't beat a custard cream, is a creep. Also Oreo's are shite. I'd rather have chlorinated chicken, thanks.

Change the thread title to Cakeover, then.

He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He's had a Jaffa, He hasn't.

cba to read back, but I love telling the story on why Jaffa Cakes are VAT free and how the decision was made in court. One for a rainy day I used to love that story, until it was on QI. But it was that story that had me wondering whether or not Jaffa cakes might be instrumental in another international incident. If people start smuggling Jaffa Cakes into the US, and creating a black market, it could undermine the global establishment, and bring the WTO to it's knees.

I dunno who we would be comparable to, in terms of advertising income, but surely a comparison can be made. Maybe Everton, but our grund is bigger and should therefore have more available space. I'm sure there was a graph of this somewhere. Would be interesing to see again.

You're a WUM. How has he not made money owning us? Go on tell us all. If he loans us money, we owe it him back. He's been getting advertising (around £8 million a year) free, taking profit from sales of merchandise. If he ever wants to sell us, he'll make a hefty profit. But no he's not made a penny. Poor Mike eh. Well show me where you get these factual figures from I have asked several times. The accounts, which are the official record of NUFC show that over the 12 year period he has been owner of the club he has lost a substantial amount. As for making a hefty profit if he sells that's the one point I do agree on and it's the only way he will make a hefty profit also, which was the original point I was making. There's definitely a bit of over-simplification in there. Sports Direct has undoubtedly benefitted from its association with the club and therefore, Ashley has as well. What would be the cost of advertising at the stadium to the level he has? £25m per season? Any loss that might show on the balance sheet has been recouped, probably many times over, whether directly or indirectly. Presumably the club shop revenue would have to be specified on the balance sheet, but would how much of that is siphoned off to SD have to be declared? NUFC purchase merchandise through SD to sell as SD get it at a better rate. SD then get a percentage of merchandising profits. People claiming Ashley doesn’t benefit? FFS. Nobody said he doesn't but can you say to what amount he does benefit? Mike Ashley himself says he wanted to use Newcastle united as a vehicle to expand Sports Direct. I suggest you check out their financial history to get a clue of the benefits he's gained over these past 12 years. For what it's worth SD was at about 220p per share before he took over, and peaked at 907p per share at about 2014. I'd say they aren't 2 mutually exclusive situations. The market for cheap sports goods and clothing was at it's premium within the period you quoted and it's down to 286 now. The high street in general has took a big downturn over the last few years whilst the Premier League is probably at it's highest point, so the correlation isn't what you're making it out to be. Did the St James advertisement help, I have no doubt it did, but not to the point you're trying to make out though. Has he increased his number of shares in that time?

He's not even interested in making money from the club. Yes he outsources everything he can to his other companies, but his baby is SD and that has grown in relation to the attachment to the club. It hasn't grown anywhere near what it could do, if he was actually a good businessman, because he can't associate his shite brand, with a successful club. A successful football club works with successful sporting brands, and they are Ashley's enemy in the business world.

It's irrelevant really. All we should be focused on is what could we have brought in if we had sold that advertising space to other companies, and the answer is probably £200m over the ten years? Brand-awareness advertising of that kind is very difficult to quantify and is usually measured in number of pairs of eyes that see the branding, rather than direct return on investment. In this case that's hundreds of millions of pairs of eyes over 10 years i would think. Look at Formula 1 - companies pay £millions to have a tiny little logo on the car, that might only get 10 seconds of air time. They're not looking for a quantifiable return, they just want their brand associated with the most high profile sport in the world. It's not irrelevant, if we're talking about how much Ashley has earned from the club. You are right it's difficult to quantify, but say the advertising over his tenure has been worth £200 million, it's safe to assume that a company with a marketing budget of £200 million, over ten years, would have expectations of substantial growth.

Young, dumb, and full of shit. Just like anybody else at that age. Being an international celebrity doesn't override being an immature prick. If it bothers anybody, why are they so fucking interested?