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Sterry Lejeune Lascelles Manquillo

Murphy Longstaff Shelvey Kenedy

                  Perez Joselu

 

Dubravka

Dummett

Yedlin

Hayden

Ritchie

Rondon

Sorensen

Perez, Kenedy, Murphy AND Joselu.  Pretty sure if those four donkeys all get on the pitch simultaneously, the gods of football will burn SJP to the ground.

He's dead wood. Let him go. Never going to be PL standard

Doesn't change the fact that our midfield is dross and we desperately need 5-6 new players of PL standard.

I see Gunn was in for Southampton. He always looked class when I saw him at Norwich.

 

Southampton manager described him as a 'Very forward defensive keeper' which I've no idea what that means

It means that when he drops utter clangers, the manager can back him and point out that he once did a pass over 30 yards that actually found someone.

That's never KI winding people up, is it?

I love how he arbitrarily manages the figures to justify fleecing the club.

NUFC sit within his holdings enterprise. The whole concept of 'loaning' the club money is a smokescreen so he can charge whatever 'interest' he likes.

I sense that if he sold the club, as well as insisting that he continued to get free advertising, he got all 'debts' repaid too. No wonder potential buyers are unable to untangle the club from the FCB's layers of bullshit.

I agree with hughsey. Moving on from SBR was not necessarily a bad idea, we just monumentally f***ed up the replacement

 

Yeap, SBR was making some bad mistakes for the club, we needed a change but not that change.

Unless I'm misremembering, the consensus was that he'd lost the dressing room and a disciplinarian was needed to whip the players into line, hence why Sourpuss came in.

In hindsight, it was a shit idea and the players needed sone Pep style leadership instead, but hindsight is a great thing.

Real shame, because the club had some fantastic players at the time. Could have won stuff if they'd have performed anywhere near their potential.

The big issue for us is that the FCB still has SJP. If a phoenix club could get SJP, then it would be much bigger than AFC Wimbledon, as NUFC has always had a much bigger following than Wimbledon.

I would happily take a decade coming up the league system to be rid of the FCB, but to make it work, the old club would need to move or die.

Only Atsu is coming out of this with any credit.

Really, really poor defending.

Rondon sharp as a sloth there.

Perez comfortably outpaced by Luke Shaw.

JUST KICK THE FUCKING BALL AT THE GOAL!!!!!!

Perez is relentlessly wank.

Shelvey looking a bit porky and limping. Not good.

Most useless kick off I've ever seen.

Can’t wait to boo soft c*** Perez and Pogba.

He shouldn't be booed, but he also shouldn't be exempt from criticism.

If Rafa is going and Ashley staying, i don't give a f*** anymore tbh.

If (when) Rafa goes, I'm abandoning ship completely until the FCB goes.

That's another thing I dislike. The seeming disdain fans and other people in football have for "player power".

 

Football is one of the few lines of work where someone taking their own careers into their hands is frowned upon.

 

I think boycotting your team and refusing to play is totally unacceptable and disgusting. But I have no problem with players forcing moves behind the scenes while doing their job well on it.

 

Football is a fickle game. A couple big injuries and you're earning power could drop drastically. I have no problem with players chasing a big paycheque as long as they give their all in training and on the field.

 

If the players don't get it, some fat b****** in an office would get it instead.

 

The average salary is £26000ish, anybody who is earning that per week, can f*** off with the short career argument. You only need a year to earn more than the average person earns in a lifetime.

 

Also they don't take their careers into their own hands, they have agents.

 

Totally agree. They earn more than most of us will make in a lifetime in a couple of years.

 

The tiniest, tiniest bit of financial common sense, not extensive wealth management, but basic common sense will see them right in retirement for the rest of their lives. No one is forcing players to waste their money on tasteless guilded turds and other bullshit.

 

Any footballer who goes bankrupt deserves all they get. After all, nothing is stopping them from getting a proper job like the fans who fork out a fortune to pay their wages.

 

Zero sympathy if they waste their money and have to get a job like the rest of us.

 

Football is one of few professions where for some reason, trying to increase your income is frowned upon. I think it's perhaps jealousy and that people don't consider it a real job. If you saw a former Premier League footballer working a regular job you would probably get schadenfreude.

 

 

Footballers' salaries aren't decided based on your own situation. You haven't done them any favours. You have a rate based on your industry and location. Brad Pitt has his. Footballers have theirs.

 

Football is a billion-pound industry. The players, at the least, deserve to be as rich as possible.

 

£26k in a year puts you in the top 1% of the world in terms of income. In a 2 parent household, it's enough to live on. I'm not going to sit here and deride you for wanting to earn more.

 

And the agent works on behalf of the player. The player is the agents boss. The agent can be fired. Ultimately, players make the final decisions. Sure agents are hugely influential.

 

I don't like how footballers wages in the UK are (a) not public domain - not that we have a right to know, it's just interesting and (b) why it's often calculated in weekly pay. Who thinks of their wage/contract/salary in terms of weeks? Unless you are paid by the day / hour?

 

When I played FM I would switch the wages to a year. A £100k p/w contract was something like £5.1m a year. 3 year deal, £15m. Can quickly look at the other finances to decide whether it was worth it or not. Much easier to compare to other players too.

 

Because for the vast majority, the weekly pay rate was somewhat relatable, but now even that's getting out of hand. We might begin to see pay by day soon enough tbh.

 

Why is weekly more relatable? Monthly I would understand. Don't most people look at their income from a yearly perspective?

 

Maybe he means in the sense that a weekly wage of £50k doesn't immediately look as obscene to the eye as £200k a month? Hence the weekly amount getting out of hand comment.

 

I mean from the point of view that your average Joe can grasp what 20,25 or even 50k actually means. A year's worth of work, or x amount to spend a month on that wage after bills. What is 1m to someone who earns 30k a year?

 

But now as weekly wages are going beyond 300k, I was making the point that maybe we'd see these amounts referenced as 40,45k a day.

 

Disgusting any way its looked at tho tbh.

 

Ok I understand it now. I don't understand what footballers' wages have to do with your own - but ok, I understand the point.

 

Why is it disgusting?

 

Man United turnover 650m euros per year. Their biggest earner makes about 25m per year. For 4 years before he's replaced with someone younger.

Out of interest, what is your take on CEOs who take home obscene wages?

Really don't get the hate directed at Dummett. He's a decent player surrounded by 3-4 slightly better players and a lot of utter dross.

 

There are some much more justifiable targets in the squad for vitriol from the fans at this time.

 

He's decent if you are happy fighting relegation or aiming to finish 15th. No club wanting to play football will ever bid for him, so if that's your idea of decent, then I guess he's decent.

He's decent, as in he's a PL standard LB. Nothing more. Would a top 6 team have him? No.

There are plenty of positions in our team that do not have any players of acceptable quality to fill - CM, 10, both wingers, CF (when Rindin goes). Let's sort those out before we break the bank to get an upgrade on Dummett.

That's another thing I dislike. The seeming disdain fans and other people in football have for "player power".

 

Football is one of the few lines of work where someone taking their own careers into their hands is frowned upon.

 

I think boycotting your team and refusing to play is totally unacceptable and disgusting. But I have no problem with players forcing moves behind the scenes while doing their job well on it.

 

Football is a fickle game. A couple big injuries and you're earning power could drop drastically. I have no problem with players chasing a big paycheque as long as they give their all in training and on the field.

 

If the players don't get it, some fat b****** in an office would get it instead.

 

I'd much much rather players earn the lion share of the money, not people like Mike Ashley.

TBF, I'd rather the money was burned before it found it's way into that fat cunt's pocket.

That's another thing I dislike. The seeming disdain fans and other people in football have for "player power".

 

Football is one of the few lines of work where someone taking their own careers into their hands is frowned upon.

 

I think boycotting your team and refusing to play is totally unacceptable and disgusting. But I have no problem with players forcing moves behind the scenes while doing their job well on it.

 

Football is a fickle game. A couple big injuries and you're earning power could drop drastically. I have no problem with players chasing a big paycheque as long as they give their all in training and on the field.

 

If the players don't get it, some fat b****** in an office would get it instead.

 

The average salary is £26000ish, anybody who is earning that per week, can f*** off with the short career argument. You only need a year to earn more than the average person earns in a lifetime.

 

Also they don't take their careers into their own hands, they have agents.

Totally agree. They earn more than most of us will make in a lifetime in a couple of years.

The tiniest, tiniest bit of financial common sense, not extensive wealth management, but basic common sense will see them right in retirement for the rest of their lives. No one is forcing players to waste their money on tasteless guilded turds and other bullshit.

Any footballer who goes bankrupt deserves all they get. After all, nothing is stopping them from getting a proper job like the fans who fork out a fortune to pay their wages.

Zero sympathy if they waste their money and have to get a job like the rest of us.

Really don't get the hate directed at Dummett. He's a decent player surrounded by 3-4 slightly better players and a lot of utter dross.

There are some much more justifiable targets in the squad for vitriol from the fans at this time.

If the FCB gets Gerrard as the manager, I'll actively start supporting ABN - Anyone But Newcastle.

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The same shitty budget bought Dubs, Lejeune, Fernandez, Yedlin, Ki Schar (jury still out I reckon), Ritchie-ish who I would describe as Premiership players. Then there's Diame, Atsu, Clark, Hayden, Lazaar, Manquillo. Joselu etc who I think aren't good enough. Murphy needs game time and confidence, still think there's a player there, same for Muto.

 

The 2nd lot in the main were bought for getting us out of the Championship, with Rafa thinking he could rebuild again with the money we would get from promotion, yet since that promotion he's been stiffed with no proper budget. Selling hasn't even generated money as the club come out with the bullshit about staggered incoming payments, yet never answer why we don't buy in same way, buying guaranteed against those incoming payments.

 

Aye he's bought some s**** with his limited budget, and hindsight would identify another player for the same money who's shown more for another team but I don't blame him for that, it's hit and miss with budget he has had. I don't think he is faultless at times, for instance I think he reacts too late with his subs sometimes. But I hate the way any tad of criticism like that is pounced on by some on here, obviously some go overboard saying it's all his fault, I just treat that with the contempt it deserves.

 

Anyhoo I'm just a tit on a keyboard and he's a world class manager and a better man than I'll ever be, and he knows more than any of us will ever know. I just hope he stays, somehow.

 

Look at the players he was forced to sell and you get some idea of what he is dealing with. Sissoko, Townsend and Wijnaldum. I know many of our fans were cock-a-hoop when we sold Sissoko and Wijnaldum, but they have done better out of it than us.

I felt the same as most others when they were sold - we were getting an excellent price for them, but we knew the money would be pocketed by the FCB and not spent on other transfers.

We got rid of some overrated mercenaries, and replaced them with dog-s*** no-marks.

If the club was run to succeed rather than turn a profit, we could have built up the core of a very good squad for the money we got for Sissoko and Wijnaldum.  Instead, we are left with by far the weakest squad since before KK took over, and it's painful.