Kid Icarus

Very crude photopea edits on my phone

Why?

Also, this is quite good in a 'chin up' sort of way with it coming from a neutral. Basically saying that yes we got things wrong and maybe had a bit of social loafing going on, but that we played well and that the sending off forced Liverpool to play better and in the way they should have from the start. He has Botman and Schär the wrong way around, which analysts seem to love doing for some reason, but I'll let him off.

I really wish there was more football on today so I could just move on like. I'm proper moping at the moment, might make a roast just because

It's only the 3rd time the opposition has gone down to 10 men with the match balanced and any significant time left and the first time we haven't gone on to win.

Of course, that was the next logical step for that upward failure

We've lost from winning positions 4 times in the league under Howe. 3 of them were against Liverpool and of those we should have won 2. 1 was a robbery, and 1 we threw away. It's ridiculous how much they seem to buck their own form and ours to beat us. They're well overdue the sort of battering we've dished out to most other teams and it 100% should have been yesterday.

It's what makes waking up after a really satisfying win so good - that you snatched victory from the jaws of defeat and know how much you've taken from the opposition and their fans. This is the opposite of that and you have to take it on the chin. It keeps your modesty in check and makes winning a pure joy when it happens. It also hardens our team and teaches them a valuable lesson in ruthlessness and not getting complacent. ? This is what I'm trying to tell myself anyway. Can't pretend that it isn't an absolute sickener waking up remembering that we threw it away like that and that there are no do-overs. We'll just have to be a support network for each other until our next win

Horses for courses and all that, but from what I've seen of Isak and Wilson together, our best bet is with Isak behind Wilson in a 4231 or 4411.

Guardiola and Klopp lose to each other all the time and to other top managers who, crucially, manage top teams. Klopp was regularly thwarted by Felix Magath too. Until we have a team that's undoubtedly at the same level it's an incredibly weak point.

Asking for Alan Pardew's opinion on substitutions is like asking for Ed Gein's opinion on interior design.

We can do it like, we do it loads and we're decent at it, but I've never seen us do it at 1-0 against an elite team that can punish you with one good ball. It's normally at 3 or 4 nil that we start playing passy.

It was apparent from the moment we started almost aimlessly knocking it around like we were controlling the game at 1-0 that we were playing with fire imo. I've never known us to take our foot off the gas like we did today and I hope it never happens again.

You haven't really seen him at CB for us? He played there every game for 6 months and was outstanding. He fucked up, Bruno fucked up even more, but our approach to being a goal and a man up was the overriding problem. Liverpool were always going to have chances.

Our cbs often step in to intercept through balls. That's what it looked like he was about to do but it was too late. Much more Bruno's fault tbh, but I wouldn't pin it on any one player, the game management was all wrong and it was obvious in real time, not just hindsight

and the strawmanning

You stand out like a sore thumb on the odd occasions there's an opportunity to be negative. Some might say some posters only really post when that opportunity presents itself...

It was my poor niece's first match Worst match in a long while from us.

Not as baffling as the high line 5-1 loss to Spurs, but not far off. I really have no idea what we were thinking there. At 1-0 Liverpool will always get chances, to seemingly sit on that scoreline and not go for the jugular is suicide.

Robbed vs given away

I just can't get my head around what I've just watched. That wasn't Howe's Newcastle at all.

A result completely of our own making. How fucking naive can you be to rest on a 1-0 against Liverpool like that? Were our players born yesterday? It was obvious that they'd definitely get a chance, in the end they had 3 and scored 2. Absolutely baffling lack of game management to do that. Drawing would have been bad enough, but to completely throw it away like that with a goal and man advantage is unbelievable from a team that has never played in that way at any point since Howe became manager. When do we ever just knock it about like that and not go for the kill? Just completely out of the ordinary, weird and stupid. Pope: 6 Trippier: 7.5 Botman: 6 Schär: 6 Burn: 6 Joelinton: 7.5 Bruno: 5 Tonali: 7 Gordon: 8 Isak: 5.5 Almiron: 6

Maybe the hype on here lead me expect two outrageously bad decisions, but having just watched it on MOTD now, I didn't think it was that bad. The red was a red, Rashford's pen was unbelievably soft but it was in the 'they're usually given' category for me. I thought Arsenal being allowed to score after Saka had fouled and injured a Fulham player trying to get a penalty was the real travesty.

This felt like a meme in real time like.

He's the real deal like. If Foden can get to where we thought he was going to get to then England are a serious team.