Kid Icarus

I wasn't all that impressed with them the other night. They deservedly won but Betis could have done better imo.

It's so fucking annoying how Man United have looked shit immediately after the EFL Cup final. Casemiro really dropped off after that match.

That's a red. Dirty cabbage-patch faced cunt.

4. We gave them 36% of their 11 points.

Southampton all over Man United at this moment in tyyyyme

Ah wey

Looks on to me

It's mainly the posters of a certain vintage saying that MOTD was better last night. You all couldn't be more of a stereotype if you tried like

That's within reason imo.

Fucking hell When you think of the teams this league's had as well. Like that Derby team.

1-0 Man City

Not sure what you mean? I know they matter to them, I'm just saying what these things are supposed to be imo, obviously within reason. Even then they're still not beholden in the way other programmes are - to advertisers.

As is anything that's profitable. It's not unique to football that it's been evermore monetised into meaninglessness. It happens to most things. It wasn't always this bad though, nor does it have anything to do with why people love the actual game itself. If anything it's only made it more popular, more global, more profitable, but ultimately worse imo.

The whole idea of something like MOTD is that it isn't supposed to be that it 'survives' - it's not in the ratings business like other programmes are. It's not beholden to advertisers, it's a public institution that's beholden to the public, on what's supposed to be the public's broadcaster. It's not enough that capitalism ruins everything it touches, we have to use its metrics as a measure of success as well. Nothing can just exist as a public good, it has to justify itself over and over again on this insane model of infinite growth.

Whenever I've caught them they've created hardly anything but scored their limited chances. Usually unsustainable when teams are like that. Meanwhile we create a lot but are canny wasteful

I very much doubt it like

6 points between 12th and 20th

Unlucky. If it makes you feel any better, I nearly put Salah and Gakpo in, but instead went for MacAllister and Mitoma and made Kane my captain.

They should still win like. As godawful as they are, Forest are tragic away.

So typical of Liverpool this season. Brilliant

The way that they're attempting to seek asylum IS legitimate and has been for 72 years

So surely you're against the government and the BBC trying to determine how Lineker voices his opinion in this case then?

Both of those things, unsurprisingly, aren't actually true, but that's by-the-by, this is a question of free speech. Presumably you'd have a problem with this happening to someone who's said what you just have, who you don't think is a tosser. On that basis alone it's a problem for all of us, regardless of what the actual opinion is.

The commentators not taking part is a huge deal like. The BBC effectively have no choice but to back down or cancel the programme now. Christ, what I'd give for that kind of solidarity among the general population

Overton window and all that. Depending on who you're talking to, the Hard left is now perceived as either largely identity politics obsessives or literally just centrists.