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Welcome Miodrag. Also, empty your pockets first next time.

My guess is that Howe isn't interested in the England job, not yet, but he has to be diplomatic about that. And also use the speculation to his advantage at Newcastle. So, then as for Newcastle. Originally when he joined it was to a shell of a club at exec level and he, along with Staveley, would have been involved in just about everything because - well - they had to be. He might even have enjoyed that, but it was never sustainable and it wasn't intended to be done that way forever. I'm pretty sure the appointment of a DOF was needed to ease that burden - I think Staveley said as much at the time - as well as always having been intended as part of a more structured set up. Then, rumours of friction with Ashworth which if true would have instead complicated his job in some respects. Similar rumours that Ashworth thought he'd have more control than he did - if true, maybe this was with Staveley, Howe or a combination of those. Roll forward to appointing Mitchell. If there was some sort of power struggle with the previous DOF, it's only natural he'd be cautious. From being in a position right at the start where he'd have been involved in everything through necessity, to one where some roles will be taken out of his hands or have reduced say, it's understandable he'd be cautious about how it would work again this time. Then Bunce - brought in for player recovery etc. Is this an implied criticism of the injury situation last time? Will it mean not being able to play players in situations like with Longstaff when he was choosing to play through an injury? It's one criticism made of Howe last year by some fans at least, whether it was fair or not. If I had to guess, this is where any stuff about boundaries is coming from, especially with Staveley gone too. Each of those appointments makes perfect sense to me. But I can also understand why he might say those things if he'd been a bit burnt by Ashworth. That's all complete speculation, of course. We'll see how it goes, but personally just can't wait till the season starts and everyone can get on with their jobs. If all the pieces fall together, I think it could be his dream job since he looks and sounds happy to be back.

The Times were reporting yesterday the PL are potentially looking at Chelsea's sale of the women's team under FMV - they referenced the sale of other women's teams globally for a lot less. Interestingly, there was talk in May that they were looking for minority investors in the women's team - so I'm guessing that's what they'd have to support any valuation. But it supports the basic point that how do you value a women's team in the first place? It's a growing sport after all, but nobody can know how much it can grow, and how do you compare the value of teams from other leagues globally anyway. They also reported that the PL still hadn't signed off on the previous hotels deal. Let's say that isn't signed off - what does that mean for PSR implications? Should they have been docked points and what would that mean for other clubs who would have placed higher? Pretty sure there were also their self declared breaches, which I haven't heard anything about for a long time. That's even before you get into the Man City arbitration and the never ending investigation into their alleged breaches and the implications of that for the integrity of the league. Anyway, both just illustrated how impossible it is to try to enforce the rules in the first place.

Sir Jimmy's derisory bids and other frogponds.

Exactly, it won't be her money. She's a deal-maker and you've got to admire her for it.

Both things were reported. But even if it was just the latest changes being challenged, it still makes the original ones all but unenforceable I'd say. To my mind, there is no open market benchmark you could use to value a related party sponsorship, or indeed any sponsorship. So no basis for the PL to challenge them in a situation where they might have to, especially where there is no burden of proof on the clubs to prove it and that burden lands on the PL instead. I'd guess they knew that, hence the rule changes. It's the same argument re player transfers - what a player is worth to one club is totally different to what they would be to another. It's not like selling a hotel, say, where you can have other bidders and thus be able to prove it. You aren't dealing with an open market in either situation. Edit - At that point, PSR itself comes crashing down for some clubs, as do the new revenue rules. I'm not sure I'd want that either to be honest. Except that the whole original stated purpose of all these tests was to stop clubs being exploited by their owners and that seems to have gotten lost.

This may be several weeks too late but I completely agree. It's definitely an element of player fatigue and of trying to shoehorn too many teams into this competition (probably for TV money) at least in Europe, I won't speak for the Copa America. The grind of qualification, then the group stages, where most of the best players have already played in their leagues, domestic and international cups, friendlies etc just isn't sustainable. Lip service has been paid to player welfare, but it doesn't translate onto the pitch when there is content to fill and TV money to be earnt. Don't know about the CA, but the Euros felt a bit flat all round to me other than a few standout moments. Then those exact same players are back for training, friendlies or made up cups within days. I kind of wish they had a month off, ate some ice cream on the beach with their families and then came back ready to bust a gut for competitions that really mattered.

We're going to smash the league this season with Tonali aren't we? No-one is going to want to play us. Get on.

I don't think Howe needs to come out and say anything. Per a previous comment, coming out and saying it's not for you right now could snooker him in the future as it would make the FA look silly. No doubt there will be discussions behind the scenes, but that's where they need to stay, especially if he wants the job at some point in the future.

It's disastrously bad, isn't it? He won't leave due to the left wing fascist police keeping his family safe through punishment beatings amongst the general disorder in every other major city, apparently. Aye, got you.

I'd be gutted if Howe went to manage bloody England, a team I only care about briefly once every two years. Sorry if you feel differently. Don't think he will, mind and nor would any top club manager. Even if this England team had won it, I reckon most football fans would have moved on after a day on the lash and be looking to their own club's transfer business more by now. Just appoint that parsley bloke and we can forget all about it for a couple more years, bar getting annoyed with the odd international break when there's no proper football, so watching us have to stutter past San Marino in a meaningless friendly just out of boredom. That was all unnecessarily negative Edit - he might have won us an extra bank holiday though, so in retrospect Howe in.

I blame Ed Sheeran.

You've moved on to bargaining pretty fast.

Yeah, I've been trying not to comment and besides been busy at work. You do wonder who would actually be delighted about this from a Newcastle standpoint and provoke meaningless arguments, since I really do remember the bubbling undercurrent of dislike of her and her motives on here. I'm sad to see her go. She's proved her worth to us. What else is there to say other than good luck to her and thank you.

Nissan factory probably shut early.

I won't speculate as to why she's gone, but from what there was, she's left a club with an impressive seeming executive team, a vastly improved team on the pitch and an excellent manager. More importantly, brought back a bit of hope that we're not just here to tread water to those that were losing it, or gave up. So, mission accomplished and then some. Would love to see her and Mehrdad at a game sometime.

Good game. The current Dutch and English styles suit us playing them. With the England bench as well, you'd fancy us second half. Aaand...there's the jinx

Could have done. But the Times are reporting she'll leave the board and the management contract she was working under. Definitely sad that she's going, but it may be she's set us up and done all she can. It's a tough role being such a public face of the club and the consortium.

Funnily enough, putting Trippier out of position as a LFB with nobody in front of him still isn't working. Better game anyway.

Yes, but aside from that, everything is terrible right?

Nah, the Times reporting they're expected to release a statement this week.

Exactly. Stadium news upcoming, I wonder? Hopefully she stays in some capacity. Her and Mehrdad were superb, either way.

He'd only just turned 20 when he joined PSV, and as a defender you tend to mature a few years later. Not sure about PSV's finances, but you can understand why most European clubs would find most PL asking prices for their own players to be absurd. Because they ARE absurd. He's still only 22 now, has shown he can more than cut it in the PL, and then also attracts both the PL and English player tax. If he carries on developing at that rate, he could be a starting central defender for the right club for a decade. But, as you say, it could just be a flash in the pan season. That's not what the couple of people who watch him quite regularly at Everton say to me, with the caveat, as always, that's just two people, opinions are subjective and that you only have to look at this or any other forum to see fans of their own club overrating their own players.