Bellis80

Do need to increase revenue but i’d want to see an advert on every piece if of tat castore sell and every advertising board in the ground with something on it before tickets increase.

Putting up prices 10% is a decent hike for normal people and the extra money probably pays the players wages for a week. Is just no need to do it.

Me and my brother have a season ticket each. I never use the membership bit and he does. If they change it I save £30 and he pays the £30 and does exactly the same. Doesn’t help anyone else getting in.

Where are you moving these people to? Go to the East or Milburn and your ticket is going up £200+, struggling to get a few together or going upstairs. And if people as old as suggested that’s not a particularly good option.

There isn’t an excuse. It’s fine. I can understand the younger lads thinking it could be better and wanting to improve it but for people who’ve been going a long time I think they’re harking back to an atmosphere that was never actually there.

Someone having a heart attack during the game tends to dampen at atmosphere I think.

I go every week and totally disagree with you so that shows how worthless both of our opinions are.

I suppose my point is it makes no difference how good you, or I, think it is. Players, managers, home and away, say how good it is and we’ve all seen how it can affect opponents, not all the time but often in big games. When you’re somewhere regularly you notice the shitter bits more but demanding change might affect what we already have.

We’ve lost one home game in about 18 months but we’re a soft touch and should be more like Wolves where it’s so bouncing they get fucked every other week.

Liverpool fans sat down in the safe standing bit next to the away end.

I would have thought so but maybe Gallowgate not a runner with possible extension coming. Be a real blow to me as that turnstile is perfect, never a queue, can rock up 5 minutes to kick off.

Same so every chance that’s where they’re thinking.

If anyone wants to go and didn’t get one could use my email. Doesn’t interest me but know a lot keen for it.

We played a champions league qualifier with about 10,000 empty seats 20 years ago never mind the atmosphere being loads better. It’s total bollocks.

Fair enough. I’ve never come away from Old Trafford or Anfield thinking we need an atmosphere more like that.

That’s what a football crowd is though. Seen Forest and Leeds mentioned as good atmospheres in here but they’ve just come back up recently and in the shit like we were last season. It’s never been bouncing every week. Would agree about the songs but look at those listed previously on the thread, some will always be there and are heard at times but maybe we just need to accept we’re old cunts and someone isn’t going to be singing about Terry Hibbitt these days. Saying the atmosphere is shit then also saying the songs people are singing aren’t the right ones isn’t going to help.

I think the atmosphere is as good now as it was 25 or so years ago. Before the extension it kept the noise in better but don’t think it’s dropped much. We get reminded of the old games seeing clips on tv regularly but they’re only the big games. Playing Fulham, Derby or someone like that at home was as quiet as it is now. Think people will be moaning however it is and wanting a drum or just constant noise isn’t what an English atmosphere is for me. Crowds react to the game here rather than being organised and putting on some kind of performance. The flags have been magnificent and added something that wasn’t there but that’s before the game. Organising things to be during just seems weird to me.

Moving the away fans downstairs would be the only thing that would make a difference for me and can’t see that being an option or anyone wanting it.

It’s great that our own players, opposition players and managers say how good the atmosphere is at St James or on Sunday when it’s clearly fucking rubbish. Some might think that matters more than a bloke sat in the stand who thinks it’s quiet and remembers it being louder 20 years ago.

It’s obvious people expect different things regarding the atmosphere. Would suggest waiting a few weeks to approach the club regarding improving things though as they’d probably think you’re fucking bonkers if did it today.

They’re a small side and the delivery was either short or awful. Takes an age taking every one regardless of the score. Took about 30 seconds taking a throw in about a minute after moaning about them taking less time when they were killing it. Does me in.

I reckon if you spent 5 minutes on a forum of any of those clubs mentioned they’d be saying the same as people on here about it being shite.

But different levels of shite. When season ticket holders aren’t there it’s worse.

If season ticket holders are the problem why are cup games the worst atmosphere?

Not true for 20 years other than the last 12 months