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He signed yet?

They clearly need lessons is smart selling and par from some posters on here

If you get a CL level defender for 10 years then it’s worth it.

Two bids all of a sudden. I speculated they might be lining up all the deals at once to make sure the budget worked, so that might mean there is another one at RW as well about to break (Or it could mean Guehi and Osula are the only two targets and if they sign its all the business done…)

Totally agree. However there are now a lot of European places and many worse clubs have picked up trophies over the years. That’s the route from where the club is today to reducing that revenue gap Given Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd and Spurs rely on the CL, there’s always 2 of them going through a bust cycle when they miss out. That means there’s always a chance to run at 4th-7th, build the exposure, build the fan base, make more money. It is achievable

The secret sauce is success on the pitch. ultimately regular European football and any trophy open up the commercial doors, I think missing out on the EC has been undervalued on here in terms of impact. In pitch success is how FSG got Liverpool back on track, after their previous American owners focussed too much on the P&L. The product is football, do that successfully and the cash will follow. Not the other way round.

Lol I definitely too much time in this thread, but really doesn’t make much difference as long as players come in before the window shuts. As long as the business gets done, in a few months everyone will have forgotten how long it took. Yes ideally they join the squad early but At CB Schar and Burn will do the job and at RW Miggy and Murphy are decent. The first couple of games are also quite gentle by PL standards. It’s not actually urgent to make signings, even if it is important.

Be bizarre to sell Gordon now the FFP pressure is off. Young, on a long contract, value will increase and most importantly delivers on the pitch and set to improve on the pitch. Honestly can’t see the football side of the management or the Saudi overlords thinking this is a good idea, be staggered if it happened. Liverpool are just having a bit of fun at Newcastle’s expense

I think the Hall business was also/mainly about people getting fed up watching BDB at LB, rather than about Hall. Had Targett been fit then Hall might have gone a bit more under the radar. I hope having Kelly, Hall and Targett frees us from that misery this season!

To me this window looks like the Isak window. In that summer the club had a look at loads of players, and there were plenty of rumours but the club didn’t seem to view the fees as appropriate. In the end they went back to Isak as even though he had a bigger fee than they really wanted to pay, he actually represented value at that fee - better to spend 60m on a 60m player, than 40m on a 20m player. Olise was viewed as worth it and the bid went in. IMO the club are still looking for a RW available at a fair fee for the ability. Some selling clubs might get realistic with pricing in August and we might have to wait until then for a RW.

The PSR question has been answered many times in this thread. It’s a rolling 3 year period in which max losses are 105m. The club had a crunch at the end of 23/24 to comply for years 21/22, 22/23 and23/24 and had to flog Anderson and Minteh to make it. In 21/22 the club made a big loss of 70m, that now drops off the calculations so it’s now much easier to comply for 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25. Plus revenues are now higher. Given the interest in Olise at like 60m there is evidently money to spend. IMO they haven’t found the right targets at a price they think is fair.

You only sell crown jewel players when you have to - basically when the player says I want to go and won’t stay as they are incredibly difficult to replace. Isak and Bruno etc might go at some point but the aim is to delay that moment Being better sellers is about moving on players once the best years are done or if they are not integral to the team. It’s not about flogging the best players at the first sign of cash

Paying him off is the worst option financially. If he doesn’t leave over the summer, keep him and seek a loan fee or sale in January. Fraser just doesn't get on with Howe, he was never a problem player.

These are just percentage balls into the box They know the club is going to sign players, and as it’s getting toward August it probably happens soon. and on the player identity saying it could be this one guy, or it could be any other footballer on the planet… Its pure filler

Is it him or is it the buying club? Seems more likely to me they the buying club is trying to squeeze the price or get him for nothing, as if it’s him he’ll just sit tight and take the money

As it’s clear there’s no way back into the squad for Fraser, and buyers know the club are on the hook for 3-4m in wages if he stays another year I guess they will try and take the piss. Only way the club get a decent deal is if there’s competition for his signature IMO

Agree it’s great to see Willock fit and in the squad. Provides something different to the other midfielders and was a big miss last season. Hopefully he rediscovers his 22/23 form

Scored huge number of goals last season with just Isak and Wilson and with CL games, there will be at least 5 fewer games pre Christmas than last season. 85 PL goals was 4th best in league, some way ahead of 5th best and IIRC the clubs best ever tally. Gordon and Barnes also contribute well from the left. A new RW who contributes goals will share it round more. Another striker would be ideal, especially as there doesn’t appear to be anyone in the youth set up coming through, however the issue last season was more about the defence and control of games.

NO’s get rid list can now field a team; Dubs Trippier Lascelles Targett longstaff murphy willock miggy Isak wilson barnes & that’s before you get to Lewis, Fraser and Hayden. If someone could call for BDB or Bruno to go it would have a bit more balance though Thankfully the season starts quite soon so there’ll be actual games to worry about, instead of the accounts, but it’s getting a bit silly now, it’s a football club not a game of monopoly

I would suspect any change of plans was caused more by missing out on Europe at the last minute, and the impact that has on both interest from players and the financials than the change in back room staff. Also deals can collapse based on factors outside of the clubs control, e.g. players changing minds, outgoing deals not working out etc, it’s not like popping down to Tesco

Im very keen he stays. I think he brings so much to the team around standards. He runs the team on the pitch. I'm also in the camp that with Livramentos injury record even if he’s the starter he’s going to miss a chuck of the season. I’m not sure Krafth is the level of backup needed, so you end up back in the transfer market. Given Trippiers age, the fee received will barely cover a half decent backup. I just don’t see the value in a sale, unless Trippier wants to leave. Recoup 10m and spend the same on an average player whilst losing the the dressing room leader.

Nothing beyond he’s on insane wages, has had no links with Newcastle, and would seem pretty unlikely to swap Barcelona for a club not even in Europe.

V true, not having proper CBs can totally wreck a side (and a season) IMO it’s the most important transfer to get done. RW is the teams biggest weakness, but you can get away with a weak RW, whereas playing players out of position at CB can absolutely sink teams.

Longstaff is a certain starter for the first game of the season, and CM is already thin so I can’t see that sale. More likely a new contract. Wilson is injured and Miggy has been available since January without interest. Trippier in my view would be a big loss and would mean signing a new RB, probably on a similiar fee to whatever trippier would get. Unless the player is driving it I don’t see that as good selling

Good to see some fans remain toxic, slagging off a good player who has put a shift in for the club. People saying sell sell - to who? Wilson is at best now a 20 game a season player, more if he’s only used off the bench. How much do people think that’s actually worth? He’s not young. There comes a point where you have to a) acknowledge he’s not going to play that much and set realistic expectations b) acknowledge he’s not going to bring a fee in and then reach the conclusion it’s better to take the 10 goals he’ll score next season than a nominal fee. Wilson is a crock who bangs them in when fit. The club need another striker, but that’s quite separate