Rich Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 When did any Premiership games become "easy", by the way? Especially ones away from home to a wounded/newly-promoted side with some new signings potentially making debuts? I know Derby have made the worst start in the league, but people need to keep their feet on the ground because these were exactly the sort of games that we'd get turned-over in when Roeder, Souness and even Robson were all here. How many of Derby's squad have been jetsetting around the world/playing two internationals in 4 days, an' all? Not as many as ours, I'd bet. A draw wouldn't be a particularly bad result, but of course we should go for the win. Remaining unbeaten is as important as anything, if you ask me. 4 points from our next two games and I'll be well chuffed, and I'd prefer to draw at Derby and spank West Ham personally. If we draw with Derby, it'll be like the End of Days on here. I fully understand/expect that. People are spoiled rotten. I do think we'll win, mind, so hopefully we won't have to witness it. I'd play: Given Taylor Rozehnal Caçapa Enrique Milner Geremi Emre N'Zogbia Owen Martins Bench: Harper, Faye, Butt, Smith, Viduka. I think Sam'll play: Harper Taylor Rozehnal Caçapa N'Zogbia Smith Geremi Butt Milner Owen Viduka Bench: Given, Faye, Enrique, Emre, Martins. Both of which look very strong and should be good enough to see us win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 It's games like this that we should really be looking to pick up maximum points if we're to challenge for Europe this season, I think the way the team is set up we're better playing in an open away game rather than a tight home one, if Derby sit back and get everyone behind the ball then we might have trouble breaking them down. Long balls won't be much good against this lot but if we keep it on the ground we could play them off the park. 0-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 We cant play Geremi & Butt in CM together its too defensive, we need someone who can drive forward. Yet we've scored 5 goals in the 2 away games where they have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 It's games like this that we should really be looking to pick up maximum points if we're to challenge for Europe this season, I think the way the team is set up we're better playing in an open away game rather than a tight home one, if Derby sit back and get everyone behind the ball then we might have trouble breaking them down. Long balls won't be much good against this lot but if we keep it on the ground we could play them off the park. 0-2 Yup, key point - have been thinking the exact same thing. S'why i reckon Martins and Owen is worth a go. If we see Viduka start, we might see a long-ball method enforced. However, if we were absolutely 100% gonna see us play the ball on the floor, i'd start Viduka, because he's so exceptional with the ball there. I just think Sam's got too much of a tendancy/urge that he'll go long-ball if he plays him... if you see what i mean. Long-winded explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NackerDan Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Given Taylor Rozehnal Cacapa Enrique Milner Smith Geremi N'Zogbia Viduka Owen 1-1, Smith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I'd also go for the above and then bring on Martins for viduka after sixty minutes, irrelevant of the score and if injuries allowed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Wont be an easy game Derby will be up for this and there will be a good atmosphere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Have we played anything but 4-3-3 this season? I think that Allardyce may start some unexpected players in this game. ------------------Given------------------- Taylor--Cacapa--Rozehnal--Enrique -----Milner-------Faye----N'Zogbia---- -------------------Smith----------------- -----------Owen---------Martins--------- Bench: Harper, Geremi, Butt, Ameobi, Beye. Edit: had Ameobi starting. But he won't do that. Probably switch to 442 at some point and move him up top with Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Read that Milner got a knock against Bulgaria. Maybe he won't start against Derby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 got to win this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 must win game definitely... btw is anyone else getting sick of never seeing enrique play? oh and i hope beye gets a game at rightback aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I've seen Enrique play in the flesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I've seen Enrique play in the flesh. how was he? didn't catch the barnsely match myself and i'm growing rather impatient.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I've seen Enrique play in the flesh. how was he? didn't catch the barnsely match myself and i'm growing rather impatient.. He had a quiet game and was quite obviously nervous at the beginning. But i was definitely encouraged by what i saw; he definitely seems to have quality. There wasn't an awful lot to do in the way of defensive work, and Caçapa ruled the show when there was, but in the second half going forward he linked well with N'Zogbia - and i remember in-particular this superb little through ball over the defense. Looking forward to seeing more of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I've seen Enrique play in the flesh. how was he? didn't catch the barnsely match myself and i'm growing rather impatient.. He had a quiet game and was quite obviously nervous at the beginning. But i was definitely encouraged by what i saw; he definitely seems to have quality. There wasn't an awful lot to do in the way of defensive work, and Caçapa ruled the show when there was, but in the second half going forward he linked well with N'Zogbia - and i remember in-particular this superb little through ball over the defense. Looking forward to seeing more of him. hmm.. thanks.. hope the lad fills in at left-back against derby; i can see zoggy ripping them apart if he was in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Aye, really should be worth a start against Derby. If he isn't, when will he ever be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 What kind of schedule did the team-- the players who weren't on international duty--have during the break? Maybe worked with Beye, Cacapa, Faye, and Enrique as a unit? Is Enrique in the Spanish U21s? Did they play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I'm not sure we'll see a radical change in personnel. Sam will probably want to keep some consistency. Not sure if we'll see Enrique and Beye, maybe one of but not both imo. Don't know if Sam will want Owen to play his 3rd full game in a week either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TampaToon Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Don't know if Sam will want Owen to play his 3rd full game in a week either. with 2 more difficult games within 6 days' time, i would think he starts on the bench at best - another 60 or 90 minutes is asking for trouble at this point, IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Don't know if Sam will want Owen to play his 3rd full game in a week either. with 2 more difficult games within 6 days' time, i would think he starts on the bench at best - another 60 or 90 minutes is asking for trouble at this point, IMO easier to sit out arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Don't know if Sam will want Owen to play his 3rd full game in a week either. with 2 more difficult games within 6 days' time, i would think he starts on the bench at best - another 60 or 90 minutes is asking for trouble at this point, IMO easier to sit out arsenal Basically, yeah - but i even think he'll start against Arsenal; we can win that game with our best players. Will be utterly gobsmacked if he doesn't start against Derby. That'd be insane, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1112619,00.html I would start with Ameobi in the game. as well as Enrique and move Zog to a left wing spot. The rest of the team would be the same as against Wigan (Milner takes Smith´s position), and of course I would play 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 ok Enrique seems to be in doubt. In that case I would play Taylor as leftback and play Beye as a rightback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Looking forward to going to this one. I'd play: ........................................Given Beye.................Rozehnal..........Cacapa...............Enrique Milner.................Geremi.............Smith................N'Zogbia ..........................Viduka..............Owen I think Sam will play: .......................................Harper Taylor..............Rozehnal............Cacapa.............N'Zogbia Smith................Geremi................Butt....................Milner .........................Viduka...............Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesmartinsmith Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Big Sam will probably stick with the 4-3-3 for now with Beye coming in, I think Taylor will still start like. See you all down there. Howay the lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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