Steve McClaren

[The College Dropout]

I can see how the football he tried to play at the beginning of the season would be looked at favourably if they won many matches by wide margins in that style. With us - we never looked like scoring then he abandoned it, rightly so imo.

[TRon]

Just been reading some comments on reddit from Derby fans following Clement's sacking. A surprising number of them still really like him, and are saying the football they played under him last season was better than they have under Clement. I'm actually pretty gobsmacked they still like him.

 

Some examples I've cut & paste:

 

"I'd love him back. The football we played under him was a million times better and that wasn't an exaggeration!

Problem is that the team has had it's heart ripped out and chucked in the bin."

 

"If he gets you playing he's great, just hope no one else offers him a better job or he'll be off. But only after he promised all your players you're going places and they sign new contracts turning down big moves. Cheers Schteve."

 

"Our football has been poor all season. Say what you like about Schteve being a muppet but the football was great. Miss thrashing teams and the quick one touch passing."

 

"I don't like it but I can see why they've done it. For the past two years we've been playing some really attractive football and the team spirit was obviously at an all time high. Even when we've been playing well this season we've looked nowhere near as good as we did under McClaren and we're only near the top due to our defence being sublime (for the most part). It's pretty obvious as well that some of the signings have come with a huge ego and really upset the dressing room while not showing on the pitch why they've been bought (yes, you Blackman). Either way I wanted him to have more time."

 

Just a few of many.

 

 

 

Tbf, the football we are playing looks pretty easy on the eye compared to the Pardew nightmare years, it's just not very effective. Partly due to having a crap midfield for most of the season, and also weaknesses at the back and up front.

[54]

Just been reading some comments on reddit from Derby fans following Clement's sacking. A surprising number of them still really like him, and are saying the football they played under him last season was better than they have under Clement. I'm actually pretty gobsmacked they still like him.

 

Some examples I've cut & paste:

 

"I'd love him back. The football we played under him was a million times better and that wasn't an exaggeration!

Problem is that the team has had it's heart ripped out and chucked in the bin."

 

"If he gets you playing he's great, just hope no one else offers him a better job or he'll be off. But only after he promised all your players you're going places and they sign new contracts turning down big moves. Cheers Schteve."

 

"Our football has been poor all season. Say what you like about Schteve being a muppet but the football was great. Miss thrashing teams and the quick one touch passing."

 

"I don't like it but I can see why they've done it. For the past two years we've been playing some really attractive football and the team spirit was obviously at an all time high. Even when we've been playing well this season we've looked nowhere near as good as we did under McClaren and we're only near the top due to our defence being sublime (for the most part). It's pretty obvious as well that some of the signings have come with a huge ego and really upset the dressing room while not showing on the pitch why they've been bought (yes, you Blackman). Either way I wanted him to have more time."

 

Just a few of many.

 

 

 

Tbf, the football we are playing looks pretty easy on the eye compared to the Pardew nightmare years, it's just not very effective. Partly due to having a crap midfield for most of the season, and also weaknesses at the back and up front.

His style of football is one of the reason's I have wanted him to stay, and give him the season, we've played decent football at times, and we've missed a hell of a load of chances, that if put away would mean we'd be nowhere near where we are, and been generally unlucky. It's just there seems to be games where the players just can't give two shits, and we look fucking atrocious, I don't know if that's just a lingering effect from the Pardew years, or if there is something deep in the club thats causing it. That said he's now had two windows and the first 11 is massively different to this time last year, so he has to start to pull results out the bag.

[Guest ElCid]

Just been reading some comments on reddit from Derby fans following Clement's sacking. A surprising number of them still really like him, and are saying the football they played under him last season was better than they have under Clement. I'm actually pretty gobsmacked they still like him.

 

Some examples I've cut & paste:

 

"I'd love him back. The football we played under him was a million times better and that wasn't an exaggeration!

Problem is that the team has had it's heart ripped out and chucked in the bin."

 

"If he gets you playing he's great, just hope no one else offers him a better job or he'll be off. But only after he promised all your players you're going places and they sign new contracts turning down big moves. Cheers Schteve."

 

"Our football has been poor all season. Say what you like about Schteve being a muppet but the football was great. Miss thrashing teams and the quick one touch passing."

 

"I don't like it but I can see why they've done it. For the past two years we've been playing some really attractive football and the team spirit was obviously at an all time high. Even when we've been playing well this season we've looked nowhere near as good as we did under McClaren and we're only near the top due to our defence being sublime (for the most part). It's pretty obvious as well that some of the signings have come with a huge ego and really upset the dressing room while not showing on the pitch why they've been bought (yes, you Blackman). Either way I wanted him to have more time."

 

Just a few of many.

 

 

 

Tbf, the football we are playing looks pretty easy on the eye compared to the Pardew nightmare years, it's just not very effective. Partly due to having a crap midfield for most of the season, and also weaknesses at the back and up front.

His style of football is one of the reason's I have wanted him to stay, and give him the season, we've played decent football at times, and we've missed a hell of a load of chances, that if put away would mean we'd be nowhere near where we are, and been generally unlucky. It's just there seems to be games where the players just can't give two s***s, and we look f***ing atrocious, I don't know if that's just a lingering effect from the Pardew years, or if there is something deep in the club thats causing it. That said he's now had two windows and the first 11 is massively different to this time last year, so he has to start to pull results out the bag.

 

Got nothing to do with Pardew he is just a shit manager anf that performance against Everton was worse than I have seen anthing Pardew come up with. The fact that he is even being discussed in the same breath as Pardew fully illustrates how shit a manager he is. This team has won six games, scored 26 goals (6!!!!! away from home) and conceded 44 goals and is massively in danger of going down. Not one other premier club would touch this clown with a barge pole.

[Jayson]

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

[Guest ElCid]

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

 

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching

[Shelveys Hair]

McClaren will no doubt treat Chelsea like they are the team of last season and give them all the possession on Saturday.. instead of getting stuck in and trying to give them a game. I will be surprised if he doesnt mess it up tactics wise at the weekend.

 

 

[Guest ElCid]

McClaren will no doubt treat Chelsea like they are the team of last season and give them all the possession on Saturday.. instead of getting stuck in and trying to give them a game. I will be surprised if he doesnt mess it up tactics wise at the weekend.

 

 

 

Agree

[Parsley]

McClaren will no doubt treat Chelsea like they are the team of last season and give them all the possession on Saturday.. instead of getting stuck in and trying to give them a game. I will be surprised if he doesnt mess it up tactics wise at the weekend.

We played pretty openly at Arsenal and Man City away in fairness.

[Jayson]

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

 

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching

 

Nah. It was bad, but we've had many more like that and worse under Pardew. We were outplayed by sides in leagues below us? Thrashings were a common event under Pards.

[Pilko]

Everton was shocking but there's probably 20 or 30 occasions when Pardew's team was worse.

 

It'd take a Kinnear-Carver-McClaren hybrid monster to try and parallel the lows of the Stevenage game.

[Guest ElCid]

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

 

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching

 

Nah. It was bad, but we've had many more like that and worse under Pardew. We were outplayed by sides in leagues below us? Thrashings were a common event under Pards.

 

Yeah it was we have been outplayed (and if you're talking about sides in the leagues below look no further than Sheff Wed for the worst performance against a lower league team so that was a bad one to use for comparison) but that performance could have been 8 or 9 but please name me games which were worse; and the only one in my opinion that comes really close was the Southampton away which was not far off the Everton game. I can't believe I'm saying this but also we would have more points this year under Pardew also and that shows how s*** McClaren is.

 

This club has had a history since Robson (Keegan second time aside) of appointing second rate managers (even before Ashley i.e. Souness, Roeder) and this one is one of the worst; who no other premier league club would touch with a barge pole. But facts speak louder than words just look at the league table and the amount of goals scored and the amount conceded and I don't have to say amymore really.

[Guest ElCid]

Everton was shocking but there's probably 20 or 30 occasions when Pardew's team was worse.

 

It'd take a Kinnear-Carver-McClaren hybrid monster to try and parallel the lows of the Stevenage game.

 

Name them please and I'll take you're Stevenage and raise you Sheff Wed.

[Dr Venkman]

 

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

 

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching

 

Nah. It was bad, but we've had many more like that and worse under Pardew. We were outplayed by sides in leagues below us? Thrashings were a common event under Pards.

 

also we would have more points this year under Pardew also and that shows how s*** McClaren is.

 

You know that making things up doesn't 'show' anything at all, don't you?

[Varadi]

http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/

 

No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was.

[Guest ElCid]

 

That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What?

 

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching

 

Nah. It was bad, but we've had many more like that and worse under Pardew. We were outplayed by sides in leagues below us? Thrashings were a common event under Pards.

 

also we would have more points this year under Pardew also and that shows how s*** McClaren is.

 

You know that making things up doesn't 'show' anything at all, don't you?

 

Making things up lets look at every season Pardew was here and the number of games played and how many points we had at the same stage - nice try must do better

[Guest]

Jesus where do we start....Southampton away last season, Brighton two years in a row, Blackburn away when we somehow won, take your pick of derbies....

[Pilko]

Everton was shocking but there's probably 20 or 30 occasions when Pardew's team was worse.

 

It'd take a Kinnear-Carver-McClaren hybrid monster to try and parallel the lows of the Stevenage game.

 

Name them please and I'll take you're Stevenage and raise you Sheff Wed.

 

I was at the Sheff Wed game, it was horrid but there was a (heavily flawed) footballing gameplan; unlike Stevenage where it was hit and hope to Lovenkrands and Best.

 

Stoke 4-0

2x Southampton 4-0

Wigan 4-0

2x City 4-0

Everton 0-3

Man U 0-3

Man U 0-4

Liverpool 0-6

Brighton 1-0

Brighton 2-0

Cardiff 1-2

Reading 1-2

Swansea 3-0

Everton 1-2

Norwich 4-2

Stoke 1-0

Sunderland 0-3 x2

 

There's about 20 there, and I didn't even have to think for more than a minute or two. Give me a little longer and I could probably just about double that.

[Guest]

Spurs and Everton 0-4 I think....at home.

[midds]

Not forgetting when we let our hair down at spurs...or shipped 7 at Arsenal. Obviously.

[Guest ElCid]

http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/

 

No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was.

 

I agree he was shit but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total shit, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season.

 

We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are shit, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not!

[Guest]

I know people take the p*ss at his 'give me 10 games' quote but I think he was always going to have a hangover period from Pardew/Carver that would take time. We're hardly in good form but without looking I'd imagine since the Norwich win we're probably lower mid-table sort of form points wise.

 

Actually I did look the other day when I was comparing us with Liverpool under Klopp and we've only 2 points fewer, so probably mid-table form then.

[Guest ElCid]

Everton was shocking but there's probably 20 or 30 occasions when Pardew's team was worse.

 

It'd take a Kinnear-Carver-McClaren hybrid monster to try and parallel the lows of the Stevenage game.

 

Name them please and I'll take you're Stevenage and raise you Sheff Wed.

 

I was at the Sheff Wed game, it was horrid but there was a (heavily flawed) footballing gameplan; unlike Stevenage where it was hit and hope to Lovenkrands and Best.

 

Stoke 4-0

2x Southampton 4-0

Wigan 4-0

2x City 4-0

Everton 0-3

Man U 0-3

Man U 0-4

Liverpool 0-6

Brighton 1-0

Brighton 2-0

Cardiff 1-2

Reading 1-2

Swansea 3-0

Everton 1-2

Norwich 4-2

Stoke 1-0

Sunderland 0-3 x2

 

There's about 20 there, and I didn't even have to think for more than a minute or two. Give me a little longer and I could probably just about double that.

 

Liverpool at home yes I would say certainly gives it a run and and Southmpton away but the others did we look like conceding 8 or 9 goals in those games - all terrible performances not arguing about that. As for the Stevenage no we didn't even create a chance against Sheff Wed until the last ten minutes.

[Guest ElCid]

Not forgetting when we let our hair down at spurs...or shipped 7 at Arsenal. Obviously.

 

It was end to end with Arsenal until their 4th goal.

[Disco]

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