Guest Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My opinion, Pardew is a poor manager, McClaren will turn out to be bang average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I know people take the p*ss at his 'give me 10 games' quote but I think he was always going to have a hangover period from Pardew/Carver that would take time. We're hardly in good form but without looking I'd imagine since the Norwich win we're probably lower mid-table sort of form points wise. Actually I did look the other day when I was comparing us with Liverpool under Klopp and we've only 2 points fewer, so probably mid-table form then. Both are s*** managers and if people think McClaren is better fair enough (even though the points don't back this up) but the point I'm making is neither should be at this club and the reason they are is the reason the club will always struggle. Let's see at the end of the season if people are saying the same thing if the team goes down and in my opinion that is extremely likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My opinion, Pardew is a poor manager, McClaren will turn out to be bang average. In my opinion both are shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lenny Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/ No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was. I agree he was shit but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total shit, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are shit, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/ No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was. I agree he was s*** but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total s***, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are s***, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Well don't fucking read it then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 "We/yous would have more points under Pardew" is so fucking annoying man, it's complete conjecture. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we finished above Palace this season, he's an absolutely terrible football manager, the worst 'proper manager' we've had to my memory. I've never despised a human being more who I don't personally know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/ No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was. I agree he was s*** but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total s***, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are s***, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Well don't fucking read it then Jesus man, he was only making a joke, no need to be all aggressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's ElCid man, he's on a forum that doesn't rate McLaren at all but he has to be all "I'M ELCID AND I HATE HIM MORE THAN ANY OF YOUS PUT TOGETHA RAWWWW." I agree with most of what he says like, not having it that Pardew would be doing better though, fuck that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My opinion, Pardew is a poor manager, McClaren will turn out to be bang average. In my opinion both are shocking. This is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's ElCid man, he's on a forum that doesn't rate McLaren at all but he has to be all "I'M ELCID AND I HATE HIM MORE THAN ANY OF YOUS PUT TOGETHA RAWWWW." I agree with most of what he says like, not having it that Pardew would be doing better though, fuck that He's like Ronaldo on roids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/ No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was. I agree he was s*** but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total s***, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are s***, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Well don't fucking read it then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I know people take the p*ss at his 'give me 10 games' quote but I think he was always going to have a hangover period from Pardew/Carver that would take time. We're hardly in good form but without looking I'd imagine since the Norwich win we're probably lower mid-table sort of form points wise. Actually I did look the other day when I was comparing us with Liverpool under Klopp and we've only 2 points fewer, so probably mid-table form then. http://i.imgur.com/887B1Hk.png We'd be 12th, this is ordered on PPG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's ElCid man, he's on a forum that doesn't rate McLaren at all but he has to be all "I'M ELCID AND I HATE HIM MORE THAN ANY OF YOUS PUT TOGETHA RAWWWW." I agree with most of what he says like, not having it that Pardew would be doing better though, f*** that I agree I can't stand the bloke and do think he is worse than Pardew and maybe I am a bit vociferous about it at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://sackpardew.com/dark-days/ No matter how we feel about McClaren let's never, ever forget how bad Pardew was. I agree he was s*** but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total s***, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are s***, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Well don't f***ing read it then Ok I'm wooshed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the shite served up by Pards like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. My thoughts exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. My thoughts exactly. Got 40 years of memories as I said in terms of tactics, team selection, players being totally lost and ineffectual in their roles and the number of chances created by a team that was at the time totally out of form yeah it's up there. I can't stand Pardew but his record in terms of points was better than McClaren and I'll argue all day that out of the two the latter is the worst of an abysmal duo. 6 goals away from home howay man let's see if everyone is saying the same come May. When fans are arguing who is the better manager between the two it shows the sorry state of this club. Neither one should ever have been associated with this club and come May there is a good chance the fat man will regret it big time - time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Frustrating as it could be better - I have heard the lot now - 6 wins out of 24, 26 scored (6 yes 6 in 12 matches away), 44 conceded and the best of all about the garbage being spewed from Pardew compared to Steve 'we played tremendous' McClaren. How anyone can have time for a a clown like McLaren is just plainly bewildering for the manager with the worst 23 game record as a Newcastle manager in the premiership. The facts speak for themselves and I couldn't give a s*** who is the bigger c*** as they are both should have been nowhere near this club at anytime. The title of this thread is very apt CLUELESS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think if McClaren had taken over a club that hadn't been decimated by 4 years of Pardew and Ashley's polices then he'd probably have looked an OK manager. As it is his mistakes are highlighted every game and he doesn't have the strong personality we needed to turn the tide quickly which is why we are where we are. If we stay up and they invest again in some better defenders, another striker and so on then I'm sure we'll have an OK season, but certainly not the one you'd expect having invested over £100m. I'm not sure about the Pardew comparison, McClaren is poor, no doubt about it, but Pardew's propensity to get a team to collapse to big defeats is still second to none. Plus McClaren has started to get results at home against the poorer teams, something Pardew wasn't very good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Frustrating as it could be better - I have heard the lot now - 6 wins out of 24, 26 scored (6 yes 6 in 12 matches away), 44 conceded and the best of all about the garbage being spewed from Pardew compared to Steve 'we played tremendous' McClaren. How anyone can have time for a a clown like McLaren is just plainly bewildering for the manager with the worst 23 game record as a Newcastle manager in the premiership. The facts speak for themselves and I couldn't give a s*** who is the bigger c*** as they are both should have been nowhere near this club at anytime. The title of this thread is very apt CLUELESS! You need to learn how to read better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Mind you, if McClaren finds a way to shoehorn Colback into the team when he's fit again he needs putting out of his fucking misery. That would be utterly unforgivable at this stage imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's ElCid man, he's on a forum that doesn't rate McLaren at all but he has to be all "I'M ELCID AND I HATE HIM MORE THAN ANY OF YOUS PUT TOGETHA RAWWWW." I agree with most of what he says like, not having it that Pardew would be doing better though, fuck that He's like Ronaldo on roids So....... Ronaldo then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I know people take the p*ss at his 'give me 10 games' quote but I think he was always going to have a hangover period from Pardew/Carver that would take time. We're hardly in good form but without looking I'd imagine since the Norwich win we're probably lower mid-table sort of form points wise. Actually I did look the other day when I was comparing us with Liverpool under Klopp and we've only 2 points fewer, so probably mid-table form then. http://i.imgur.com/887B1Hk.png We'd be 12th, this is ordered on PPG. I like that. So after we've been able to shake off the Pardew effect we're mid-table, Palace have had time to fully be taken in by the Pardew effect and they're shit. I'll stick to that narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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