Baggio Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Is a liability in the centre of defence. Not only is he slow and doesn't read the game very well but he's been getting knocked off the ball far to easily for someone who you would consider a strong centre back rather than a technical one, brushed off the ball by Jones like he wasn't even there today, similar to how he got knocked off the ball by Ashley Young against Villa earlier this season. I'd rather have Faye any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 mido didn't knock him off the ball did he? i thought mido just ran away from him, which raises another issue about his pace and positioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Yep, I'd go along with that Baggio. blueyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 mido didn't knock him off the ball did he? i thought mido just ran away from him, which raises another issue about his pace and positioning. Just edited it, I was thinking about when he got knocked off the ball by Young in the Villa game. Against Mido he was out of position and couldn't catch him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Would be chastised almost as much as Bramble was were it not for the fact he's a local lad. Slow + Careless + Wreckless = not good attributes for a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Would be chastised almost as much as Bramble was were it not for the fact he's a local lad. Slow + Careless + Wreckless = not good attributes for a defender. He gets an unfair amount of stick using the "just because he is a local lad" stick as something to beat him with on here, so you're talking shite. Still, keep trying to get a wind up on every thread on the first page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Would be chastised almost as much as Bramble was were it not for the fact he's a local lad. Slow + Careless + Wreckless = not good attributes for a defender. He gets an unfair amount of stick using the "just because he is a local lad" stick as something to beat him with on here, so you're talking shite. Still, keep trying to get a wind up on every thread on the first page. It's bollocks to compare him to Bramble, but the local lad thing has definitely bought him a ton of slack tbf. He's benefitted from it far more than it's been used as a stick to beat him with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Would be chastised almost as much as Bramble was were it not for the fact he's a local lad. Slow + Careless + Wreckless = not good attributes for a defender. He gets an unfair amount of stick using the "just because he is a local lad" stick as something to beat him with on here, so you're talking shite. Still, keep trying to get a wind up on every thread on the first page. It's bollocks to compare him to Bramble, but the local lad thing has definitely bought him a ton of slack tbf. He's benefitted from it far more than it's been used as a stick to beat him with. Have to strongly disagree with you. But going to do it without it turning into a tit for tat argument, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Would be chastised almost as much as Bramble was were it not for the fact he's a local lad. Slow + Careless + Wreckless = not good attributes for a defender. He gets an unfair amount of stick using the "just because he is a local lad" stick as something to beat him with on here, so you're talking shite. Still, keep trying to get a wind up on every thread on the first page. It's bollocks to compare him to Bramble, but the local lad thing has definitely bought him a ton of slack tbf. He's benefitted from it far more than it's been used as a stick to beat him with. Have to strongly disagree with you. But going to do it without it turning into a tit for tat argument, Fair enough, difference of opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Lucky not to have been sent off today, and almost gave a pen away when he pushed Jones ower for nowt. Liability i agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 he is not going to be the player we thought he might be when he first broke into the side, but he is not terrible. i think he's as good(or as bad) as rozehnal who also has big faults to his game. a squad player at the moment, and even that might be in jeopardy if we strengthen the position in january or next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Lucky not to have been sent off today, and almost gave a pen away when he pushed Jones ower for nowt. Liability i agree. The bloke ran into him as he was already going for the header. How's that a sending off? (assuming thats the incident you are talking about) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. What attributes do you think he has to make him become a top player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Looked good at right back but pretty dodgy in the middle. He had a harder time dealing with Jones than Faye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin99. Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 even though he's only 21 he's got a huge amount of first grade experience. I don't think he's improved a whole lot/ enough over that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Baggio still thinks Dyer was worth keeping, after 8 years of massive underachieving. mackems.gif This thread is a swipe at me because I've been disputing Cacapa with him lately, and said Cacapa was brushed off the ball too easily against Pompey [which he was]. Good job he didn't play today, Jones would have flattened him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Baggio still thinks Dyer was worth keeping, after 8 years of massive underachieving mackems.gif This thread is about Steven Taylor, can you keep it on topic please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Baggio still thinks Dyer was worth keeping, after 8 years of massive underachieving mackems.gif This thread is about Steven Taylor, can you keep it on topic please. No. If you don't like me dragging up comments by you, tough, as its something you seem to like doing yourself. Its also topical, its about comparing our central defenders. I also added to the last post too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 He's not a liability but a good squad player at the very least. He will get better, as most defenders do, with experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 He's not a liability but a good squad player at the very least. He will get better, as most defenders do, with experience. precisely. He's 21. It isn't as if he's about 30 and still not learned to not get knocked off the ball, like Cacapa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Baggio still thinks Dyer was worth keeping, after 8 years of massive underachieving mackems.gif This thread is about Steven Taylor, can you keep it on topic please. No. If you don't like me dragging up comments by you, tough, as its something you seem to like doing yourself. Its also topical, its about comparing our central defenders. I also added to the last post too. This thread is about Taylor being a liability, feel free to add your opinion. If you want to start a thread about Dyer then go ahead and I'll happily pass comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. Baggio still thinks Dyer was worth keeping, after 8 years of massive underachieving mackems.gif This thread is about Steven Taylor, can you keep it on topic please. No. If you don't like me dragging up comments by you, tough, as its something you seem to like doing yourself. Its also topical, its about comparing our central defenders. I also added to the last post too. This thread is about Taylor being a liability, feel free to add your opinion. If you want to start a thread about Dyer then go ahead and I'll happily pass comment. whats the matter Baggio. Can't take people disagreeing with you, or dragging up your points, like you do to others ? Steven Taylor is a defender for NUFC. Comparing him to other defenders at the club, and comparing your judgement of him to your judgement of others, is very much the point. If you don't like it, stop sniping about young players playing for the shirt, and moaning all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. What attributes do you think he has to make him become a top player? He's strong, can read the game well for his age, rarely gets skinned (See Petrov for an exception this season though) and can challenge. I think his timing of the challenge can sometimes let him down as can his rashness but he's only a young lad and hasn't really played alongside a good experienced centre half for any length of time. I find your constant sniping of our squad a bit boring. You love a fucking whinge don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think he'll still turn into a top player. Baggio - Are there any members of the current squad you actually rate? You slate Milner, Owen, Smith, Taylor.............fucking give it a rest man. What attributes do you think he has to make him become a top player? He's strong, can read the game well for his age, rarely gets skinned (See Petrov for an exception this season though) and can challenge. I think his timing of the challenge can sometimes let him down as can his rashness but he's only a young lad and hasn't really played alongside a good experienced centre half for any length of time. I find your constant sniping of our squad a bit boring. You love a fucking whinge don't you? seconded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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