madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 listening to a few different groups in the pub (before and after), most think now is a bad time to be attracting a new manager but want rid of allardyce,so an interim could seem an option ? i did nose in to others debates and various names came out of those who would possibly do it.......keegan.venables. the idea being that they dont want the long term job and would give us some time,experience and entertainment. even worth keeping on in some capacity at the club...proxy DOF to persuade players to come here. whilst not being pressure on the mangemebnt side as they dont really want that anymore. thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 As much as i think SA has lost it, it would be pointless to go for anything other than a long term manager. If we were to do that though, it should be about giving Shearer a chance rather than some old bloke doing his bow out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 As much as i think SA has lost it, it would be pointless to go for anything other than a long term manager. If we were to do that though, it should be about giving Shearer a chance rather than some old bloke doing his bow out. shearer would never take the post as an interim and right now i thik thats what we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'd be for it, to try and offer an alternative to the style of football Allardyce is giving us. However, I think the effect would be minimal to nil. The reason for this, sadly, is that I'm beginning to think Allardyce is becoming so fucking ignorant that he wouldn't listen to someone offering an alternative. I can't help but feel that he thinks he knows best and obviously seems determined not to give in to the pressure of the fans. (Zog playing left wing). I watched "Big Ron Manager" on Sky, where Ron Atkinson helped out at Peterbrough, and as a result, their manager resigned as he felt Atkinson was getting preferential treatment from Peter Fry and didn't like having him around. Although I don't think Allardyce would walk, I think it would bring conflict into the club, perhaps as Allardyce wouldn't want to be portrayed as needing a "helper" as it would suggest to outsiders he isn't all what he's cracked up to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Pointless going for a long term manager if this one doesnt even get 15 games before the claws are out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'd be for it, to try and offer an alternative to the style of football Allardyce is giving us. However, I think the effect would be minimal to nil. The reason for this, sadly, is that I'm beginning to think Allardyce is becoming so f****** ignorant that he wouldn't listen to someone offering an alternative. I can't help but feel that he thinks he knows best and obviously seems determined not to give in to the pressure of the fans. (Zog playing left wing). I watched "Big Ron Manager" on Sky, where Ron Atkinson helped out at Peterbrough, and as a result, their manager resigned as he felt Atkinson was getting preferential treatment from Peter Fry and didn't like having him around. Although I don't think Allardyce would walk, I think it would bring conflict into the club, perhaps as Allardyce wouldn't want to be portrayed as needing a "helper" as it would suggest to outsiders he isn't all what he's cracked up to be. i mean "instead" of allardyce but leaving us time to find a fulltime appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Pointless going for a long term manager if this one doesnt even get 15 games before the claws are out go for a good long term appointment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 What about this guy? http://www.forumfutbol.com/futbol-resimleri/data/media/16/fatih_terim.jpg Fatih Terim..... His name is a bit close to what you suggested in your thread title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 What about this guy? http://www.forumfutbol.com/futbol-resimleri/data/media/16/fatih_terim.jpg Fatih Terim..... His name is a bit close to what you suggested in your thread title. reckon he'd probably want it full tiime.....good pun link mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'd be for it, to try and offer an alternative to the style of football Allardyce is giving us. However, I think the effect would be minimal to nil. The reason for this, sadly, is that I'm beginning to think Allardyce is becoming so f****** ignorant that he wouldn't listen to someone offering an alternative. I can't help but feel that he thinks he knows best and obviously seems determined not to give in to the pressure of the fans. (Zog playing left wing). I watched "Big Ron Manager" on Sky, where Ron Atkinson helped out at Peterbrough, and as a result, their manager resigned as he felt Atkinson was getting preferential treatment from Peter Fry and didn't like having him around. Although I don't think Allardyce would walk, I think it would bring conflict into the club, perhaps as Allardyce wouldn't want to be portrayed as needing a "helper" as it would suggest to outsiders he isn't all what he's cracked up to be. i mean "instead" of allardyce but leaving us time to find a fulltime appointment. yeah sorry, haha. It dawned on me after I'd posted. So in effect, a caretaker? The only qualm I'd have about that is that the interim manager does well, drags us up the league and performances improve, so we decide to appoint him full-time. Then we think "oh goody" and he's appointed as full-time manager. However in his first full season, he begins to lose it. He makes poor signings, some of which are panic signings on deadline day and we're back to square one in terms of what we're seeing on the pitch. I think this happened not so long ago somewhere.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'd be for it, to try and offer an alternative to the style of football Allardyce is giving us. However, I think the effect would be minimal to nil. The reason for this, sadly, is that I'm beginning to think Allardyce is becoming so f****** ignorant that he wouldn't listen to someone offering an alternative. I can't help but feel that he thinks he knows best and obviously seems determined not to give in to the pressure of the fans. (Zog playing left wing). I watched "Big Ron Manager" on Sky, where Ron Atkinson helped out at Peterbrough, and as a result, their manager resigned as he felt Atkinson was getting preferential treatment from Peter Fry and didn't like having him around. Although I don't think Allardyce would walk, I think it would bring conflict into the club, perhaps as Allardyce wouldn't want to be portrayed as needing a "helper" as it would suggest to outsiders he isn't all what he's cracked up to be. i mean "instead" of allardyce but leaving us time to find a fulltime appointment. yeah sorry, haha. It dawned on me after I'd posted. So in effect, a caretaker? The only qualm I'd have about that is that the interim manager does well, drags us up the league and performances improve, so we decide to appoint him full-time. Then we think "oh goody" and he's appointed as full-time manager. However in his first full season, he begins to lose it. He makes poor signings, some of which are panic signings on deadline day and we're back to square one in terms of what we're seeing on the pitch. I think this happened not so long ago somewhere.... thats why i mentioned keegan and venables who would probably prefer a job upstairs in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heero Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 pointless, lets just stick with SA, i know we are crap, but it can only get better. He himself doesn't want to lose either, but if we keep sacking managers we are never going to move forward. I get pissed to not winning games, but in te end maybe he'll get it right. who knows i hate the guy somethimes for his tactics, but then there is something about him that i like, don't ask me what. nutts i'm to wasted hahahha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 IF are getting to the stage where relegation might be a threat, I would bring in George Graham until the season's end - he would certainly sort out the defence enough to get us enough points to survive.. Graham has the ability to do this with a club like NUFC OVER A SHORT PERIOD... Fans wouldn't like it(boring 1-0 wins, 0-0 draws etc), but needs must - relegation would be the ultimate disaster for this club... IF Allardyce is fired, a short-term appointment with top class experience is the best way until we can take a wider choice in Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 for gods sake man, keegan, venables? george fucking graham? the grass isnt always greener you know lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Why not Gérard Houllier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 IF are getting to the stage where relegation might be a threat, I would bring in George Graham until the season's end - he would certainly sort out the defence enough to get us enough points to survive.. Graham has the ability to do this with a club like NUFC OVER A SHORT PERIOD... Fans wouldn't like it(boring 1-0 wins, 0-0 draws etc), but needs must - relegation would be the ultimate disaster for this club... IF Allardyce is fired, a short-term appointment with top class experience is the best way until we can take a wider choice in Summer. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 pointless, lets just stick with SA, i know we are crap, but it can only get better. He himself doesn't want to lose either, but if we keep sacking managers we are never going to move forward. I get pissed to not winning games, but in te end maybe he'll get it right. who knows i hate the guy somethimes for his tactics, but then there is something about him that i like, don't ask me what. nutts i'm to wasted hahahha Are you mental? Look at the remaining fixtures again and then tell me it can only get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redmayne Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 pointless, lets just stick with SA, i know we are crap, but it can only get better. He himself doesn't want to lose either, but if we keep sacking managers we are never going to move forward. I get pissed to not winning games, but in te end maybe he'll get it right. who knows i hate the guy somethimes for his tactics, but then there is something about him that i like, don't ask me what. nutts i'm to wasted hahahha Are you mental? Look at the remaining fixtures again and then tell me it can only get better. agreed we've just had the easiest fixture list i remember in years and they never were that favourable to us but this season was] now we have the run in i can see us hovering between 10-16th place all season oh the fucking joy of it - mind you its not the managers fault i mean we don't pay him for results right? BOLLOCKS .... and to the players although we have needed a full clearout for a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jesus wept, what makes people think another manager will do any better. Especially a caretaker manager, lets get Roeder back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 for gods sake man, keegan, venables? george f****** graham? the grass isnt always greener you know lads it definitely is. anyone is better than fat sam!! anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 This is pissed, can we really sack another manager ? Really tho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Pointless going for a long term manager if this one doesnt even get 15 games before the claws are out Have you seen us play this season? Have you seen Allardyce's formations, tactics and player selections? Have you seen the layers he saw fit to shell £25m out on? HE'S NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jesus wept, what makes people think another manager will do any better. Especially a caretaker manager, lets get Roeder back in. Thats fucking laughable, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Have you seen us play this season? Have you seen Allardyce's formations, tactics and player selections? Have you seen the layers he saw fit to shell £25m out on? Yes I have HE'S NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR US. Sadly we cant keep on sacking mangers, it has to stop or change somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iliketoonarmy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jesus wept, what makes people think another manager will do any better. Especially a caretaker manager, lets get Roeder back in. The only reason you are saying this is because your knowledge of football is fucking limited thus you can't really think of other better candidates. Sam,Roeder,Souness are those level you can think of that's why geordies deserve shit managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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