St. Maximin Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Typical of here, you see something differently and get bluntly attacked for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, TRon said: I haven't watched much comedy in modern times but even decades ago you had Jennifer Saunders, Joan Rivers, Roseanne Barr and such. Now you have Fleabag and probably loads more, I'm not really up to date, but it's a bizarre statement. It doesn't even belong 50 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: I also think for the most part, that women are not funny / lack a sense of humour / make absolutely shit stand up comedians. Prove me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, St. Maximin said: No. Thanks for kindly explaining why I’m wrong though. Already done that over the last few pages, can’t be arsed anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Already done that over the last few pages, can’t be arsed anymore. You actually haven’t. Saying someone shouldn’t commentate or will automatically be inferior because she’s a women is without doubt misogynist, but nobody has said that. I don’t agree with Keegan or his supporters here, but some of the reactions haven’t been proportionate. It’s of course possible I’ve misinterpreted quotes, but no need to get angry mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: He's not wrong in his comments but he should know better how that would have been taken up. It's an equality of outcome thing as opposed to equality of opportunity. Every pundit panel must contain a woman regardless if she has the personality of a turnip, or she has to be the presenter. I gave up on Sky sports soccer Saturday thing with Jeff Stelling because the panel with Merson etc were just utter shit. I'd have it on but sound off with Radio 5 sound on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: You actually haven’t. Saying someone shouldn’t commentate or will automatically be inferior because she’s a women is without doubt misogynist, but nobody has said that. I don’t agree with Keegan or his supporters here, but some of the reactions haven’t been proportionate. It’s of course possible I’ve misinterpreted quotes, but no need to get angry mate. I’m not angry mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Saying "I don't like women pundits" and following it up with "no it's not sexist because the reason I don't like them is because they're shit, not because they're women" is incredibly stupid like. It's just a description of sexism with an extra step. If you weren't sexist you'd simply say "I don't like shit pundits" instead of assigning shitness to women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: I’m not angry mate. Just came across that way from your previous reaction mate. But anyway I know I’m being pedantic here and it’s wrong to say you prefer people of a certain gender (as with race, sexuality etc) doing something, but I think the intentions behind those kind of claims aren’t bad even if they shouldn’t be expressed like that. Edited October 6, 2023 by St. Maximin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I think the most shocking thing about this is that anyone pays nearly enough attention to pundits to care who gets the job. I think the only time I hear what one of them has to say is if I pass something on here. So naturally I'm pre-disposed to assuming every single one of them is utter shit, man or woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Saying "I don't like women pundits" and following it up with "no it's not sexist because the reason I don't like them is because they're shit, not because they're women" is incredibly stupid like. It's just a description of sexism with an extra step. If you weren't sexist you'd simply say "I don't like shit pundits" instead of assigning shitness to women. I agree and I’ve clarified my view above but I just don’t think anyone has said that. You have to bear in mind the context here being Keegan’s recent comments, rather than someone just out of the blue having a rant about women commentators because he heard one on the TV and didn’t like them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Some proper Fkin fannies mind fml For what its worth I listen to talk radio with the volume off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: Is this a fucking wind up? Do you have a preference for men playing football or women playing football, or no preference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Wullie said: Do you have a preference for men playing football or women playing football, or no preference? No preference based on sex. Actually don’t have a preference based on anything, not arsed who plays football. Edited October 6, 2023 by Dr Venkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Some proper Fkin fannies mind fml For what its worth I listen to talk radio with the volume off And the people who seemingly can’t handle the concept of women talking about football on telly are what exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: I agree and I’ve clarified my view above but I just don’t think anyone has said that. You have to bear in mind the context here being Keegan’s recent comments, rather than someone just out of the blue having a rant about women commentators because he heard one on the TV and didn’t like them. They have like, 100% Keegan's comments are an aside from this thread for me tbh, I just think he phrased what he meant poorly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: And the people who seemingly can’t handle the concept of women talking about football on telly are what exactly? Who gives a fuck man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: No preference based on sex. Actually don’t have a preference based on anything, not arsed who plays football. Fair enough. I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their mind up who actually believes that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Wullie said: Fair enough. I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their mind up who actually believes that. What are you on about? Who has an internal list of preferences of who they prefer playing football? Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Abacus said: What about when they walk in front of the telly when the match is on as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 leave KK alone man. its an opinion. no one got hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Who gives a fuck man All of the people posting about it, including you, obviously. Could say that about anything on here as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Wullie said: Fair enough. I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their mind up who actually believes that. Is this the same Wullie from Chat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 @Wullie Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha? The premise being that I can’t call out misogyny because I obviously have a preference for men playing sport based on sex alone and therefore people who have explicitly stated they are prejudiced based on sex can’t be misogynist? Is that what’s happening? And if I don’t agree with you that I have a preference based on sex alone then you just don’t believe me and no-one else should? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: All of the people posting about it, including you, obviously. Could say that about anything on here as well. Nah I don't, honestly I don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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