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43 minutes ago, Wullie said:

Sorry like, I'm going to start issuing bans for anyone praising Karen Carney, Jesus Christ. Still makes me laugh thinking of when John Murray said to her on 5Live that Arsenal had recovered well because "things had looked ominous" when they'd conceded early to Man City and she said "Ooh I don't know John, I don't know what ominous means"

 

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1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

 

All that is about people not understanding/accepting the definition of misogyny. It's all there.

“Nothing misogynistic about preferring male commentators to female ones .”

 

I don’t think that’s misogynistic at all if someone can’t help but prefer the male commentators that are available to the female commentators, assuming it’s based on their commentary. 

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5 minutes ago, St. Maximin said:

“Nothing misogynistic about preferring male commentators to female ones .”

 

I don’t think that’s misogynistic at all if someone can’t help but prefer the male commentators that are available to the female commentators, assuming it’s based on their commentary. 


Is this a fucking wind up?

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2 hours ago, TRon said:

 

I haven't watched much comedy in modern times but even decades ago you had Jennifer Saunders, Joan Rivers, Roseanne Barr and such. Now you have Fleabag and probably loads more, I'm not really up to date, but it's a bizarre statement. It doesn't even belong 50 years ago. :lol:

 

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6 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Already done that over the last few pages, can’t be arsed anymore.

You actually haven’t. Saying someone shouldn’t commentate or will automatically be inferior because she’s a women is without doubt misogynist, but nobody has said that. 

I don’t agree with Keegan or his supporters here, but some of the reactions haven’t been proportionate. It’s of course possible I’ve misinterpreted quotes, but no need to get angry mate. 

 

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5 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

He's not wrong in his comments but he should know better how that would have been taken up.

 

It's an equality of outcome thing as opposed to equality of opportunity. Every pundit panel must contain a woman regardless if she has the personality of a turnip, or she has to be the presenter.

I gave up on Sky sports soccer Saturday thing with Jeff Stelling because the panel with Merson etc were just utter shit. I'd have it on but sound off with Radio 5 sound on.

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10 minutes ago, St. Maximin said:

You actually haven’t. Saying someone shouldn’t commentate or will automatically be inferior because she’s a women is without doubt misogynist, but nobody has said that. 

I don’t agree with Keegan or his supporters here, but some of the reactions haven’t been proportionate. It’s of course possible I’ve misinterpreted quotes, but no need to get angry mate. 

 

I’m not angry mate.

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Saying "I don't like women pundits" and following it up with "no it's not sexist because the reason I don't like them is because they're shit, not because they're women" is incredibly stupid like. It's just a description of sexism with an extra step. If you weren't sexist you'd simply say "I don't like shit pundits" instead of assigning shitness to women. 

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7 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

I’m not angry mate.

Just came across that way from your previous reaction mate. But anyway I know I’m being pedantic here and it’s wrong to say you prefer people of a certain gender (as with race, sexuality etc) doing something, but I think the intentions behind those kind of claims aren’t bad even if they shouldn’t be expressed like that. 

 

 

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I think the most shocking thing about this is that anyone pays nearly enough attention to pundits to care who gets the job.

 

I think the only time I hear what one of them has to say is if I pass something on here. So naturally I'm pre-disposed to assuming every single one of them is utter shit, man or woman.

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4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Saying "I don't like women pundits" and following it up with "no it's not sexist because the reason I don't like them is because they're shit, not because they're women" is incredibly stupid like. It's just a description of sexism with an extra step. If you weren't sexist you'd simply say "I don't like shit pundits" instead of assigning shitness to women. 

I agree and I’ve clarified my view above but I just don’t think anyone has said that. You have to bear in mind the context here being Keegan’s recent comments, rather than someone just out of the blue having a rant about women commentators because he heard one on the TV and didn’t like them. 

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11 minutes ago, Wullie said:

 

Do you have a preference for men playing football or women playing football, or no preference?

No preference based on sex.

 

Actually don’t have a preference based on anything, not arsed who plays football.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Some proper Fkin fannies mind fml


For what its worth I listen to talk radio with the volume off 

 

And the people who seemingly can’t handle the concept of women talking about football on telly are what exactly? :lol:

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16 minutes ago, St. Maximin said:

I agree and I’ve clarified my view above but I just don’t think anyone has said that. You have to bear in mind the context here being Keegan’s recent comments, rather than someone just out of the blue having a rant about women commentators because he heard one on the TV and didn’t like them. 

They have like, 100%

 

Keegan's comments are an aside from this thread for me tbh, I just think he phrased what he meant poorly.

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1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

No preference based on sex.

 

Actually don’t have a preference based on anything, not arsed who plays football.

 

Fair enough. I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their mind up who actually believes that.

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1 minute ago, Wullie said:

 

Fair enough. I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their mind up who actually believes that.

What are you on about?

 

Who has an internal list of preferences of who they prefer playing football? Based on what?

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