We need to spend £ 150 million..............

[Decky]

gold

[lovejoy]

HE MEANT THAT SPENDING BIG ISNT HE BE ALL AND END ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

fuck me.

 

its a combination of things, spending big is all well and good, but its only one of the ingredients for success.

 

 

 

 

[lovejoy]

FWIW i dont think we need to sign anyone next season.

 

we're mint.

[Thespence]

Remind me how well it worked.

 

 

At times it was the pinncale of my being a fan of the club. Of couse in hindsight we have looked/are the biggest wasters of cash ever as I am sure list of big buys that went wrong would prove. In the end they left us with a club that was 13th in the Premier League, that is an improvement from where they started from when they bought the club.

[Dave]

Here's a link for what it's worth, although I'm sure you think I edited that. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=50385.msg1218552#msg1218552

 

Pulling up random links rather than:

 

Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though.

 

Which means you are mocking those who think we need to buy.

 

Back track as much as you want right now.

 

 

 

 

How the fuck am I backtracking? Where's the link to me saying I think we should spend NOTHING?

 

So it was just a throw away high and mighty comment with those who have a different opinion then?

 

I'm really stuck as to what your point is here. I said that I agree with 1878 that spending big is all well and good (when you can afford it), but the key is making GOOD signings that improve the team. We spent loads of money under the previous regime and it didn't seem to help us one bit, did it? Was Luque a good signing? Owen? They cost a shitload.

[Syrette]

FWIW i dont think we need to sign anyone next season.

 

we're mint.

 

Couldn't agree more, the squad will be good enough to get us promoted straight back up.

[NE5]

Based on our record of big money buys, I'm suprised anyone wants to persist with the approach.

 

Don't expect different results if you continue to do the same thing!!

 

don't bother trying to go down the proven successful method then, buy average players instead and go down 

 

Can't wait until 6 years time and these 17 year old kids are all going to be the next Gazza, guaranteed

 

 

 

£85M spent in 3 years = zero success

 

As I've said, we need to spend well, not necessarily big.

 

spend well ? Of course you do, everybody thinks they are spending well otherwise they wouldn't spend. Plenty of people said openly that we spent well when we bought Boumsong and Luque. So why blame the fat b****** when they turned out to be s**** ?

 

Plenty of people also said we sold well when we peddled Robert and Bellamy for 4m quid.

 

You need to buy big to be successful though.

Its extremely rare for a club to bring through a nucleus of young players who all become top quality together, the only ones I can think of is the manure set ie Neville, Beckham, Scholes etc.........the Leeds team of the 70's, and the Everton team of the early to mid 80's, and even then they still bought big players, proven internationals

 

There are lots more who buy quality/trophy players, having a cheque book is part of football, I don't understand people who don't think we should try and capatilise on our fanbase.

 

just out of curiosity NE5 how much debt do you reckon it is safe to rack up in this glory chase ?

 

oh, I don't think manure, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea will be worried too much about their accumulated debts

 

As TT has just said, lets spend nothing [stop speculating] and see how far that gets us.

 

 

[lovejoy]

FWIW i dont think we need to sign anyone next season.

 

we're mint.

 

Couldn't agree more, the squad will be good enough to get us into europe.

[Dave]

Remind me how well it worked.

 

 

At times it was the pinncale of my being a fan of the club. Of couse in hindsight we have looked/are the biggest wasters of cash ever as I am sure list of big buys that went wrong would prove. In the end they left us with a club that was 13th in the Premier League, that is an improvement from where they started from when they bought the club.

 

Fair comment.

[Parky]

HE MEANT THAT SPENDING BIG ISNT HE BE ALL AND END ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

fuck me.

 

its a combination of things, spending big is all well and good, but its only one of the ingredients for success.

 

 

 

 

 

NOT SURE WHERE ANYONE SAID IT WAS THE ONLY IN INGREDIENT!!!!! [Justwannajoinin.com/]

[Dave]

As TT has just said, lets spend nothing [stop speculating] and see how far that gets us.

 

Right on fucking cue.

[Syrette]

!!

[Thespence]

Got to love it when you click post & the words 15 new new replies have been posted, either I am slow as fuck at typing or keyboards are gannin ballistic in other peoples gaffs.

[Dave]

All this thread needs is Olliemort!!!

[Dave]

Got to love it when you click post & the words 15 new new replies have been posted, either I am slow as fuck at typing or keyboards are gannin ballistic in other peoples gaffs.

 

Alter your board settings to get rid of that shitty function. I can do it for you if you can't find it.

[Baggio]

Here's a link for what it's worth, although I'm sure you think I edited that. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=50385.msg1218552#msg1218552

 

Pulling up random links rather than:

 

Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though.

 

Which means you are mocking those who think we need to buy.

 

Back track as much as you want right now.

 

 

 

 

How the fuck am I backtracking? Where's the link to me saying I think we should spend NOTHING?

 

So it was just a throw away high and mighty comment with those who have a different opinion then?

 

I'm really stuck as to what your point is here. I said that I agree with 1878 that spending big is all well and good (when you can afford it), but the key is making GOOD signings that improve the team. We spent loads of money under the previous regime and it didn't seem to help us one bit, did it? Was Luque a good signing? Owen? They cost a shitload.

 

I've just put that through the Toon's Taylor option on babel fish and it came back as...

 

"We don't need to sign anyone"

[Dokko]

Here's a link for what it's worth, although I'm sure you think I edited that. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=50385.msg1218552#msg1218552

 

Pulling up random links rather than:

 

Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though.

 

Which means you are mocking those who think we need to buy.

 

Back track as much as you want right now.

 

 

 

 

How the fuck am I backtracking? Where's the link to me saying I think we should spend NOTHING?

 

So it was just a throw away high and mighty comment with those who have a different opinion then?

 

I'm really stuck as to what your point is here. I said that I agree with 1878 that spending big is all well and good (when you can afford it), but the key is making GOOD signings that improve the team. We spent loads of money under the previous regime and it didn't seem to help us one bit, did it? Was Luque a good signing? Owen? They cost a shitload.

 

Ah. I thought you meant we didn't need to spend big and those who did think that were to be criticised.

 

Sorry like.

 

But were not going to be able to spend well this summer, were going to have to spend massive just to be average.

[Parky]

ROB W HAS NICKED MY ACT!!!! [intellectualproperty.com/]

[NE5]

You're making things up and attributing them to me. What else would I do?

 

I asked you a question, answer it or hide, guess you are doing the latter. 

 

No amount of edits are going to make you right on this one.

 

We need to spend money, if we don't were fuked...if you agree with that then your comments:

 

"Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though."

 

Are totally fuking worthless mate.

 

 

 

Please point out where I said that we should spend nothing. I'll be excited to see the link, because I can't for the life of me remember where I said that.

 

Whats:

 

Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though.

 

Suppose to mean then? Just a passive pointless comment NOT to be picked up upon?

 

 

If your comments are THAT throwaway then why bother?

 

My comment was a dig at the people who seem to think that as long as we spend a load of money, things will take care of themselves.

 

We've been spending loads of money for years under the previous board, as NE5 and others love to keep telling everyone. Remind me how well it worked.

 

Still waiting for the link where I said we should spend nothing btw.

 

europe and the Champions League more than everybody but 4 teams ?

 

2 FA Cup Finals ?

 

A 52,000 stadium filled almost every game ?

 

 

[Dave]

Oh god, what have I done.

[Happy Face]

ROB W HAS NICKED MY ACT!!!! [intellectualproperty.com/]

 

I find it odd he thinks you were underselling it at £100M in a year...and suggests it'll need to be £150M over 3 years.

 

 

Is your abacus broke Rob?

[NE5]

Remind me how well it worked.

 

 

At times it was the pinncale of my being a fan of the club. Of couse in hindsight we have looked/are the biggest wasters of cash ever as I am sure list of big buys that went wrong would prove. In the end they left us with a club that was 13th in the Premier League, that is an improvement from where they started from when they bought the club.

 

summed up in 3 lines

 

Would anyone care to speculate what would have happened if we hadn't spent the cash that we did during that time ?

 

 

[Guest Knightrider]

Despite our position as a mediocre club and the increasing competitive nature of the transfer market I am pretty confident that Newcastle United can still attract top quality players to the club as we have never had any real problems in doing so at any point in our history. Traditionally Newcastle have always managed to sign top quality players whether it be luring Kevin Keegan to a then second division outfit or Real Madrid and England's Michael Owen to Graeme Souness' circus. Remember money talks. Especially in today's world. No, our problems have mainly stemmed from our inability to sign the right quality players. Keegan was the right kind of quality buy, Owen wasn't. And it is this area of identifying and buying players that we now need to get right once and for all because our only exit strategy out of this deep rooted mediocrity is spending big, bigger than ever before. We have proven ourselves unable to show the kind of patience and faith needed to rebuild in a gradual and safe fashion that has yielded success of some sort for the Evertons and Villas of this world so we have no other option. Our small and bereft of quality squad demands it, our downbeat disillusioned fanbase demands and most of all Kevin Keegan demands it. Furthermore, the Premiership landscape demands it. If we don't spend big we will recede even further into our mediocre shell regardless of the man in the dugout. It won't be easy to sign top quality players but it isn't beyond our reach. It will be even harder to sign the right kind of players. But that's why Mike Ashley has brought Keegan back essentially, to spend his money well on the right kind of players. And for Keegan, he has a canny knack of doing just that. None more so than for us in his first spell as manager at Gallowgate. Can he do it again? Of course he can and I have faith in him to do so. How much does he require? As much as possible. We don't need to do a Chelsea of course and if I'm being honest with myself, I'd rather we didn't go down that route. But we do need to spend big, more than we've ever spent, and on quality rather than quantity this time. And we will in my opinion. Keegan wouldn't have accepted an invitation to return otherwise. Time will tell whether we actually spend big on the right players of course but that's something we can only truly assess in time. Until then... you get what you pay for. Or for Keegan, what other managers have paid for.

[ChezGiven]

If i may interject, the point of my earlier post was to highlight the need to spend and the need to GAMBLE.

 

Players that are dead certs will go to bigger clubs unless the timing of the market is in our favour. We need to overpay some talent, we need to gamble on some more talent and we need make clubs offers they cant refuse. Some of it might come off, with a bit of luck. As it did for SBR eventually. Sort of.

[Happy Face]

You're making things up and attributing them to me. What else would I do?

 

I asked you a question, answer it or hide, guess you are doing the latter. 

 

No amount of edits are going to make you right on this one.

 

We need to spend money, if we don't were fuked...if you agree with that then your comments:

 

"Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though."

 

Are totally fuking worthless mate.

 

 

 

Please point out where I said that we should spend nothing. I'll be excited to see the link, because I can't for the life of me remember where I said that.

 

Whats:

 

Exactly. Doesn't stop people thinking it's the be all and end all though.

 

Suppose to mean then? Just a passive pointless comment NOT to be picked up upon?

 

 

If your comments are THAT throwaway then why bother?

 

My comment was a dig at the people who seem to think that as long as we spend a load of money, things will take care of themselves.

 

We've been spending loads of money for years under the previous board, as NE5 and others love to keep telling everyone. Remind me how well it worked.

 

Still waiting for the link where I said we should spend nothing btw.

 

europe and the Champions League more than everybody but 4 teams ?

 

2 FA Cup Finals ?

 

A 52,000 stadium filled almost every game ?

 

 

 

Haven't we spent more in the last 5 years (with no champions league or FA cup finals to show for it) than in the ten years before that.