Bafetimbi Gomis

[Skeletor]

Really not fussed where our players come from tbh.

 

We could do with some diversity though.

[geordiedean]

we haven't had a history of mass success with the French and most of the French lads I've seen in black and white over the last 20 years have a heart the size of a pea...you can mock the English lads but what they lack in technical ability they make up for in spirit and heart..

 

Remember the lion that was Stephane guivarch world cup winner that we all had high hopes for....Debuchy reminds me of this clown

[alexf]

Wow. I can do that too. Remember Ginola, Robert even our current Ben Arfa. Think most would pick those over shit English lads who have a bit of "heart". Anyone can just pick examples to suit their agenda.

[STM]

Id be looking towards the management before the players.

[TRon]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

[geordiedean]

Yes ginola was great for the short period of time and Robert was fantastic...you can't compare Ben Arfa to them 2 as he's done fuck all to be in the same bracket

 

For them 3 see about 20 that have been mediocre to shite

[Ronaldo]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

[TRon]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

[Ronaldo]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Which is exactly what's being advocated for us, with good reason. We don't have the resources to buy the best of French, frankly. We get Kyle Walker's inferior French counterpart.

[henke]

I don't think our scouting is limited to France. Since Tiote we've been linked with several players from Holland too. Signed Santon from Italy.

 

I think it's probably be became much easier for us to sign frenchies because of the large contingent already here. And i've said before it wouldn't bother me if we had 23 frenchmen, as long as they could play.

[TRon]

I don't think our scouting is limited to France. Since Tiote we've been linked with several players from Holland too. Signed Santon from Italy.

 

I think it's probably be became much easier for us to sign frenchies because of the large contingent already here. And i've said before it wouldn't bother me if we had 23 frenchmen, as long as they could play.

 

I agree, before going down the tedious French Bottlers route, I'd rather we looked at appointing a manager suited to making the best use of our players and recruiting policy. It's tight-fisted but that doesn't mean we are buying bad players, very few have dipped in value since coming here so that shows other teams rate them highly.

[Dokko]

I don't think our scouting is limited to France. Since Tiote we've been linked with several players from Holland too. Signed Santon from Italy.

 

I think it's probably be became much easier for us to sign frenchies because of the large contingent already here. And i've said before it wouldn't bother me if we had 23 frenchmen, as long as they could play.

 

Well they couldn't all play, league rules and all that.

[Disco]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

[Dokko]

I don't think our scouting is limited to France. Since Tiote we've been linked with several players from Holland too. Signed Santon from Italy.

 

I think it's probably be became much easier for us to sign frenchies because of the large contingent already here. And i've said before it wouldn't bother me if we had 23 frenchmen, as long as they could play.

 

I agree, before going down the tedious French Bottlers route, I'd rather we looked at appointing a manager suited to making the best use of our players and recruiting policy. It's tight-fisted but that doesn't mean we are buying bad players, very few have dipped in value since coming here so that shows other teams rate them highly.

 

Its a bit of everything tbh, the biggest problem is the manager though.

[TRon]

I don't think our scouting is limited to France. Since Tiote we've been linked with several players from Holland too. Signed Santon from Italy.

 

I think it's probably be became much easier for us to sign frenchies because of the large contingent already here. And i've said before it wouldn't bother me if we had 23 frenchmen, as long as they could play.

 

I agree, before going down the tedious French Bottlers route, I'd rather we looked at appointing a manager suited to making the best use of our players and recruiting policy. It's tight-fisted but that doesn't mean we are buying bad players, very few have dipped in value since coming here so that shows other teams rate them highly.

 

Since Ashley has come in we have always been nearer to a continental model of recruitment. Really haven't been able to figure out why we haven't gone down the Continental manager route. I can only assume the people advising him on football are terrible.

 

The only logical answer is that he doesn't want to spend money on a real manager, but at the same time doesn't want to lose out on potential jackpot signings like Cabaye either. Short sighted corner shop mentality when laid bare.

[TRon]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

 

Well you can add Petite to that so that's almost half the outfield players.

[henke]

I said last week we need a french manager, half joking. Pardew lost the dressing room at some point last season and it was clear on monday night he hasn't got it back. The players look lost. But even if he could get them playing his english approach to the game is lost on them anyway.

[Disco]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

 

Well you can add Petite to that so that's almost half the outfield players.

 

Fair enough, he joined Barca in 2000 though so it would be a strange addition.

[TRon]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

 

Well you can add Petite to that so that's almost half the outfield players.

 

Fair enough, he joined Barca in 2000 though so it would be a strange addition.

 

I didn't put the dates of 2001-4 in there mind, that was you. I was just talking about Arsenals most successful period.

[Dokko]

As i've pointed out before the English core was a hugely important part for Arsenal with both Henry & Pires stating it was the likes of Keown the introduced, helped and protected them through English football.

 

To write that off is ignorant, and its what we've done imo.

[Disco]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

 

Well you can add Petite to that so that's almost half the outfield players.

 

Fair enough, he joined Barca in 2000 though so it would be a strange addition.

 

I didn't put the dates of 2001-4 in there mind, that was you. I was just talking about Arsenals most successful period.

 

Well I picked Arsenal's most successful period given that's what you talked about. If you expand it there is

 

1997-99 you had Petit, Vieira and Anelka

2001 - 04 you had Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry

 

(plus Grimandi throughout lurking with intent off the bench)

 

You can't claim both just to suit your argument because there was no cross over where they had a team 'filled with' players from one country and as

 

As i've pointed out before the English core was a hugely important part for Arsenal with both Henry & Pires stating it was the likes of Keown the introduced, helped and protected them through English football.

 

To write that off is ignorant, and its what we've done imo.

 

rightly states they had just as many Englishmen who were regulars during the same timeframe.

 

It also helps the ones they bought are lightyears ahead of their equivalents that we've been picked up.

[TRon]

As i've pointed out before the English core was a hugely important part for Arsenal with both Henry & Pires stating it was the likes of Keown the introduced, helped and protected them through English football.

 

To write that off is ignorant, and its what we've done imo.

 

I don't think anyone has ever written off the value of having a good English core, if you can afford to bring in the quality required, but to start inferring that the problem is buying too many French players rather than looking at the obvious shit management is not fair IMO.

[Hanshithispantz]

I don't think they necessarily have to be English, just hardened in the league.

 

Our main ambassador was trying to fuck off whilst the new lads were coming in.

[Dokko]

As i've pointed out before the English core was a hugely important part for Arsenal with both Henry & Pires stating it was the likes of Keown the introduced, helped and protected them through English football.

 

To write that off is ignorant, and its what we've done imo.

 

I don't think anyone has ever written off the value of having a good English core, if you can afford to bring in the quality required, but to start inferring that the problem is buying too many French players rather than looking at the obvious shit management is not fair IMO.

 

Tbh no one is dismissing the shit manager, but there's a thread for him and we all know he's holding us back but I think it's only sensible to look at other factors as well and our transfer policy isn't watertight.

 

Put him aside, that's all anyone is doing here, you don't have to bring him in to it, it's a pointless exercise as you are just preaching to the converted.

[TRon]

I wonder why Wenger doesn't have a problem with French players in the English league? If anybody should know their strengths and weaknesses by now you would have thought it was him.

 

 

 

Wenger usually has 2 or 3 at most in his team.

 

That's because Arsenal's scouting is not restricted to one country. His most successful period as manager was when the side was filled with them.

 

Assume you're going off 2001-4 so does Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry = filled does it?

 

Well you can add Petite to that so that's almost half the outfield players.

 

Fair enough, he joined Barca in 2000 though so it would be a strange addition.

 

I didn't put the dates of 2001-4 in there mind, that was you. I was just talking about Arsenals most successful period.

 

Well I picked Arsenal's most successful period given that's what you talked about. If you expand it there is

 

1997-99 you had Petit, Vieira and Anelka

2001 - 04 you had Vieira, Wiltord, Pires & Henry

 

(plus Grimandi throughout lurking with intent off the bench)

 

You can't claim both just to suit your argument because there was no cross over where they had a team 'filled with' players from one country and as

 

As i've pointed out before the English core was a hugely important part for Arsenal with both Henry & Pires stating it was the likes of Keown the introduced, helped and protected them through English football.

 

To write that off is ignorant, and its what we've done imo.

 

rightly states they had just as many Englishmen who were regulars during the same timeframe.

 

It also helps the ones they bought are lightyears ahead of their equivalents that we've been picked up.

 

Well I don't think Wenger would have a problem buying 6 Frenchmen if he thought they were of good enough quality, in fact he's bought a few duds as well. He doesn't seem to see nationality of a player as much of an issue as the quality, which is the right way to go IMO.