ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Think his record against Celtic and in the CL would hold up better than what he scores against low end Champ/League 1 standard teams. He's a really poor footballer, and if he couldn't replicate anywhere near his scoring ratio (he wont) then it would really like be playing with 10 men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Think his record against Celtic and in the CL would hold up better than what he scores against low end Champ/League 1 standard teams. He's a really poor footballer, and if he couldn't replicate anywhere near his scoring ratio (he wont) then it would really like be playing with 10 men. So you're saying if he can't score then he wouldn't be a very good striker? This argument is f***ing stupid anyway. It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. READ MAN, READ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Boyd was a gamble, a gamble we chose not to take. Time will tell if we were right, I would like to see us go for Markus Rosenborg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. READ MAN, READ! I hope you're taking the piss but I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? You don't quite understand my point. He has a great record against teams of a similar standard to those we would face next season in the depths of the Premier League. If you think we can get a Drogba or a Rooney then feel free but I feel he was a very realistic, proven goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. READ MAN, READ! I hope you're taking the piss but I'm not sure. How in gods name do you not understand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? You don't quite understand my point. He has a great record against teams of a similar standard to those we would face next season in the depths of the Premier League. If you think we can get a Drogba or a Rooney then feel free but I feel he was a very realistic, proven goalscorer. I do understand your point, the fact is you're wrong. He doesn't have a good record against teams of the standard we will be facing next season. He has a good record against Championship/League 1 standard teams. His record against the only Premier League standard opposition he's played against (Celtic) is shocking (1 in 27). Wigan, Bolton, West Brom, Blackpool are all miles ahead of Hibs, Hearts, Falkirk and Hamilton Academicals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. READ MAN, READ! I hope you're taking the piss but I'm not sure. How in gods name do you not understand? How don't you? He has a terrible record against teams that include Lee Naylor, Stephen McManus, Georgios Samaras who would be very near the bottom of the premier league, if not below it. You're carrying on as if Celtic are Man Utd and Falkirk are Premiership standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? You don't quite understand my point. He has a great record against teams of a similar standard to those we would face next season in the depths of the Premier League. If you think we can get a Drogba or a Rooney then feel free but I feel he was a very realistic, proven goalscorer. I do understand your point, the fact is you're wrong. He doesn't have a good record against teams of the standard we will be facing next season. He has a good record against Championship/League 1 standard teams. His record against the only Premier League standard opposition he's played against (Celtic) is shocking (1 in 27). Wigan, Bolton, West Brom, Blackpool are all miles ahead of Hibs, Hearts, Falkirk and Hamilton Academicals. Well I consider Celtic to be better than Blackpool, West Brom, Bolton, Stoke, West Ham and Wolves. Even if he scored half as many goals it would be priceless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's not like we are going to need goals against Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc we will need them against lower table teams. His record against such teams is second to none. wtf 1 goal in 27 v Celtic. Second to millions of SPL plodders that. READ MAN, READ! I hope you're taking the piss but I'm not sure. How in gods name do you not understand? How don't you? He has a terrible record against teams that include Lee Naylor, Stephen McManus, Georgios Samaras who would be very near the bottom of the premier league, if not below it. You're carrying on as if Celtic are Man Utd and Falkirk are Premiership standard. Falkirk have just been relegated man, stop spouting pish that other people are saying. Of course it would be a risk but it's much less of a risk than anyone else we can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? You don't quite understand my point. He has a great record against teams of a similar standard to those we would face next season in the depths of the Premier League. If you think we can get a Drogba or a Rooney then feel free but I feel he was a very realistic, proven goalscorer. I do understand your point, the fact is you're wrong. He doesn't have a good record against teams of the standard we will be facing next season. He has a good record against Championship/League 1 standard teams. His record against the only Premier League standard opposition he's played against (Celtic) is shocking (1 in 27). Wigan, Bolton, West Brom, Blackpool are all miles ahead of Hibs, Hearts, Falkirk and Hamilton Academicals. Well I consider Celtic to be better than Blackpool, West Brom, Bolton, Stoke, West Ham and Wolves. Even if he scored half as many goals it would be priceless. I dunno like, even that's questionable. Celtic's transfer targets are Stoke and WBA cast offs (Lawrence and Koren). If anything I'd sayd they're of a very similar level. That's the point though, against the only comparable team to Prem standard he's done absolutely shocking, so bad to the point that Rangers often don't play him in Old Firm games because it's like playing with 10 men when he plays. The chances are he'd really struggle in the Prem, he has nothing to back his game up with when he inevitably fails against good opposition. There has to be a reason behind the fact that no Premiership team has gone for him, these teams have scouting networks (contrary to popular belief on here) who have obviously assessed that Boyd doesn't have anywhere near the attributes required to make it at a high level - there's reasoning behind why he's ended up at Boro along with all the other SPL exports. Another player from the SPL, Fletcher, who had nowhere near the same scoring record however had alot more assets to his game and had alot more ability to make the step up to a Premier League team. Hence why Burnley paid big money for him and subsequently Wolves also have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Right, so you think bottom half of the Premier League is equal to bottom half of the SPL? You don't quite understand my point. He has a great record against teams of a similar standard to those we would face next season in the depths of the Premier League. If you think we can get a Drogba or a Rooney then feel free but I feel he was a very realistic, proven goalscorer. I do understand your point, the fact is you're wrong. He doesn't have a good record against teams of the standard we will be facing next season. He has a good record against Championship/League 1 standard teams. His record against the only Premier League standard opposition he's played against (Celtic) is shocking (1 in 27). Wigan, Bolton, West Brom, Blackpool are all miles ahead of Hibs, Hearts, Falkirk and Hamilton Academicals. Well I consider Celtic to be better than Blackpool, West Brom, Bolton, Stoke, West Ham and Wolves. Even if he scored half as many goals it would be priceless. I dunno like, even that's questionable. Celtic's transfer targets are Stoke and WBA cast offs (Lawrence and Koren). If anything I'd sayd they're of a very similar level. That's the point though, against the only comparable team to Prem standard he's done absolutely shocking, so bad to the point that Rangers often don't play him in Old Firm games because it's like playing with 10 men when he plays. The chances are he'd really struggle in the Prem, he has nothing to back his game up with when he inevitably fails against good opposition. There has to be a reason behind the fact that no Premiership team has gone for him, these teams have scouting networks (contrary to popular belief on here) who have obviously assessed that Boyd doesn't have anywhere near the attributes required to make it at a high level - there's reasoning behind why he's ended up at Boro along with all the other SPL exports. Another player from the SPL, Fletcher, who had nowhere near the same scoring record however had alot more assets to his game and had alot more ability to make the step up to a Premier League team. Hence why Burnley paid big money for him and subsequently Wolves also have. Celtic are struggling financially so their transfer targets will be set much lower this year. With the Fletcher point, yes he is a better player but we don't have the money to spunk on a player like that so I don't think it's fair to bring that point up. Trust me, Boyd is far from a great player but I think he represents a much lower risk. He has an incredible scoring record (you can't argue with that) and he is bloody free. Not even on astronomic wages either. No brainer imo. If he didn't work out I'm sure someone would take him off our hands and we would still make a profit. Needless to say, this is all in the past as he is with the smoggies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Record of Portugal are reporting Raul Meireles (sp) will sign for Chelsea for around £15-20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Record of Portugal are reporting Raul Meireles (sp) will sign for Chelsea for around £15-20m. He's a right good player. Would be happy to see him in the Prem. Man City should have been in for a player like that instead of Yaya Toure, really baffling sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Record of Portugal are reporting Raul Meireles (sp) will sign for Chelsea for around £15-20m. He's a right good player. Would be happy to see him in the Prem. Man City should have been in for a player like that instead of Yaya Toure, really baffling sometimes. Meireles is overrated and not proven at anywhere near the highest level. Toure was a mainstay in one of the best sides of the last 50 years. I can see why they chose Yaya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 We were linked a long time ago. He's good but not that quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 He could of done better, could have seen him going somewhere like you or Everton. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Lomano Lua Lua has joined AC Omonia in Cyprus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Record of Portugal are reporting Raul Meireles (sp) will sign for Chelsea for around £15-20m. He's a right good player. Would be happy to see him in the Prem. Man City should have been in for a player like that instead of Yaya Toure, really baffling sometimes. Meireles is overrated and not proven at anywhere near the highest level. Toure was a mainstay in one of the best sides of the last 50 years. I can see why they chose Yaya. Meireles is a quality player, wouldn't say he is overrated at all. Porto signed Joao Moutinho today for £9 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Boyd will have two mediocre seasons at Boro then fuck off back to Rangers, written in the stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Moutinho for £9m is a shock. We were supposedly getting quoted £15-20m for the past two years and had bids of more than £9m rejected. Staying in Portugal is a bit of a cop out on his part as well. Not to mention a big 'fuck you' to the Sporting fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Record of Portugal are reporting Raul Meireles (sp) will sign for Chelsea for around £15-20m. He's a right good player. Would be happy to see him in the Prem. Man City should have been in for a player like that instead of Yaya Toure, really baffling sometimes. Meireles is overrated and not proven at anywhere near the highest level. Toure was a mainstay in one of the best sides of the last 50 years. I can see why they chose Yaya. Meireles is a quality player, wouldn't say he is overrated at all. Porto signed Joao Moutinho today for £9 million. That would be like if Ameobi signed for the Scums what ? you mean fantastic for the selling club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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