Guest Nufc4Life Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 The thing is though, it's not like all this boardroom thing happened in this past month. When Bruce left, Birmingham werent in the relegation zone, McLeish had plenty of time to make sure they didnt get into it when it all started to calm down. For the past few months we've heard nothing about all this boardroom stuff and it's cooled off, yet they've slipped out of the Premiership. I agree it had an affect in the first half of the season, but like I said, Birmingham werent in the relegation zone when McLeish came so you can't really say its because of the unrest that they've gone down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 The thing is though, it's not like all this boardroom thing happened in this past month. When Bruce left, Birmingham werent in the relegation zone, McLeish had plenty of time to make sure they didnt get into it when it all started to calm down. For the past few months we've heard nothing about all this boardroom stuff and it's cooled off, yet they've slipped out of the Premiership. I agree it had an affect in the first half of the season, but like I said, Birmingham werent in the relegation zone when McLeish came so you can't really say its because of the unrest that they've gone down. When Bruce left, Birmingham had just lost 7 out of their previous 8 games. Things were already on the slide. Regardless of that, though, I'd still have bet on Bruce making a better fist of keeping them up than McLeish being dropped into it with things at such a low. The boardroom unrest has been there since the start of the season, if it hadn't, then I think they'd have had a decent chance of staying up. The situation still isn't clear now (even before the events of yesterday) - Sullivan has been talking all season about wanting out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nufc4Life Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Oh yeah, there was definently a slide. And i agree with you that Bruce would of had a better go than McLeish. My main point though is i think there was enough time for it to be turned round when Mcleish got there, and whilst it's still not clear, it has calmed down a bit, McLeish knew what his job was, keep them up, and regardless of any other events, he couldnt do it. Gold/Sullivan etc are to blame a bit, but not entirely, and you could see Gold does care for the club. I'd still say though, if they can keep the majority of there players, they are more than equipped for an immediate return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think Gold cares a lot more than Sullivan does, and I suspect he will end up buying Sullivan's shares off him. Kapo will be off, he practically said as much in the post match interview. Zarate won't want to hang around, and there will be people happy to take him from that Qatari club who have his registration. Someone may even fancy the look of Jerome. I think they'll lose a few, but they're certainly better equipped than, say, Derby to come straight back up again. They've also got the advantage of a few players (Ridgewell, McSheffery) who'll be playing at their natural level in the championship and will probably deliver the goods. I'd never admit this to other Villa fans, but I wouldn't be at all disappointed if we bought Forssell off them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thought Forssell was absolute quality a few years back, just seems to have fallen into a slump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thought Forssell was absolute quality a few years back, just seems to have fallen into a slump. Think he had big problems with his knees in the past, but he always looks sharp whenever I see him play. He usually scores against us, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Ditto keefaz, i wanted us to buy him a couple of summers ago but he doesn't look the player he promised to be, apart from the odd game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I must say that I think that Alves is good like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcdonald36 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Only just seen the manc game. Benett bottled it big style. I wouldn't go as far as saying the game is corrupt, but there are certain refs who favour certain teams in the key moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Only just seen the manc game. Benett bottled it big style. I wouldn't go as far as saying the game is corrupt, but there are certain refs who favour certain teams in the key moments. Aye, Scholes should have been off like. Any other team and he would have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Don't think that second one was a booking myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I do but not many refs would have given it seeing as he'd already been booked. Still think Man Utd would have won the game anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MagicNumber9 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 If Ronaldo had scored that goal that Rochemback did we'd never hear the end of it. Was an amazing goal, probably goal of the season, but of course he isnt Ronaldo so it won't me mentioned in the media at all. Felt really sorry for David Gold in the end, could tell he was absolutely devastated, by relegation and the fans reaction. He made a mistake in sacking Bruce, but the boardroom trouble shouldnt have affected the players once Mcleish came in. There was plenty of time to turn it round, and besides, it's only been the last couple of weeks they've fell into the relegation zone anyway, so you can't really blame it all on boardroom unrest. Thought Southgate was classy in his interview as well, sorta making excuses for Man City! Seems a top bloke and Boro have looked a quality side in a few matches i've seen them in this season, bit of consistency they could be top half next season. Sorry mate, but these 2 words do not go together... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Sick to fuck already of hearing about Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thought their attendance for their game on Sunday (last game of the season, and at home) was at the same time as pathetic as it was amusing. Joke of a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thought Forssell was absolute quality a few years back, just seems to have fallen into a slump. Think he had big problems with his knees in the past, but he always looks sharp whenever I see him play. He usually scores against us, as well. His knees are totally fucked. He failed a medical for us before signing permanently for Birmingham from Chelsea in 2005. Since then he's been injured more often than not and his form has been understandably sluggish. Shame really as he could have been a real quality striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Only just seen the manc game. Benett bottled it big style. I wouldn't go as far as saying the game is corrupt, but there are certain refs who favour certain teams in the key moments. Rio Ferdinand looked like a fair keeper though.Not spotted by Bennett 10 yards away with an unobstructed view.Wayne Rooney,every time a decision went against him,4 or 5 times,petulance,arm waving,swearing at Bennet,who after the 5th time booked him.Same ref gave Mascherano a red card against Manchester United for less.Corrupt-fucking right it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcdonald36 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 The second Scholes incident was a blatant Yellow card. Scholes knew it himself. Bennett bottled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Thought Southgate was classy in his interview as well, sorta making excuses for Man City! Seems a top bloke and Boro have looked a quality side in a few matches i've seen them in this season, bit of consistency they could be top half next season. There'll always be a good few teams that are better than Boro (aside from those in the top four). As someone said, joke club. They'll go down before they get into Europe (through the league anyway), imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Sitting here watching Bristol City vs. Palace. That Bradley Orr fella we released back in 2004 (?) looks a decent right back to me. Good game so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 1-0 Palace Watson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Sitting here watching Bristol City vs. Palace. That Bradley Orr fella we released back in 2004 (?) looks a decent right back to me. Good game so far... He went to the same school as me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Cmon palarse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Phew... missed pen for Palace. Come on The Robins! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 no!! palace to come up! bunch of gypsys but play (vaguely) entertaining football unlike the rest if im not mistaken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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