Mick Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That's the problem right there. You are being ruled by prejudices you hold over Pardew. IF and that's a sizable if, Pardew has intentionally left his name out, I would imagine it's him again trying to spark a reaction from Ranger due to his persistent poor time keeping etc. Ranger doesn't have a persistent time keeping problem, Pardew confirmed that last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Dino the bad influence! That's the problem right there. You are being ruled by prejudices you hold over Pardew. IF and that's a sizable if, Pardew has intentionally left his name out, I would imagine it's him again trying to spark a reaction from Ranger due to his persistent poor time keeping etc. Ranger doesn't have a persistent time keeping problem, Pardew confirmed that last week. For Pardew perhaps, but I'm sure there's been talk about his attitude towards training before that (including late to and missing training), might even be in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Airey was missing from reserve game today, Nile played scored a hatrick. Is Airey now with the 1st team and Nile back to the reserves or was it a case of it being a big game Nile got the nod ? Possibly. I'd laugh if Airey grabbed this out of the blue chance and became a much better player I had previously gave him credit for. Pardew unintentional masterstroke! Man, can't believe he didn't mention Andy Carroll, or Dan Taylor, or Aaron Spear, man, this guy is a joke. Not even mentioning pass legends like Alan Shearer, Peter Beardsley, Andy Cole and David Kelly. Oh this guy is terrible. BOO THIS MAN! s*** post. Hold my hands up entirely - i find it very difficult to like Pardew. To me it reads as if he wants nowt to do with Ranger. Apologies for harbouring this opinion. That's the problem right there. You are being ruled by prejudices you hold over Pardew. IF and that's a sizable if, Pardew has intentionally left his name out, I would imagine it's him again trying to spark a reaction from Ranger due to his persistent poor time keeping etc. Can't see that sparking anything but anger/frustration tbh. I know I would get frustrated anyway. Frustrated that someone would think that lowly of you, thereby making you want to prove them wrong? Frustrated with not being acknowledged. Frustrated of hearing people who have a couple of minutes off the bench and proven nowt, being in front of you in the line. Isn't that Nile Ranger? Glimpses of potential, but when its really mattered, shown very little. No, that's Airey. Ranger has shown he has the potential to make it in the top flight. The goals will come, as it did with Carroll. By that logic no youngster EVER should be given a chance. How do you think Ranger got his chance? Likewise Carroll? For what its worth, Nile Ranger has shown time and time again this season that he can't finish in the top flight. Reserves? He's a superstar. Even the Championship he didn't look like he was lethal, a league where Ameobi and Lovenkrands looked like threats. Nope. Not really the point. It's just that he don't mention and acknowledge him at all. He should be mentioned before Airey at this time. That simple. In the championship he was even younger than now (obviously).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ranger was worth that contract just for the reactions he creates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Man, can't believe he didn't mention Andy Carroll, or Dan Taylor, or Aaron Spear, man, this guy is a joke. Not even mentioning pass legends like Alan Shearer, Peter Beardsley, Andy Cole and David Kelly. Oh this guy is terrible. BOO THIS MAN! s*** post. Hold my hands up entirely - i find it very difficult to like Pardew. To me it reads as if he wants nowt to do with Ranger. Apologies for harbouring this opinion. That's the problem right there. You are being ruled by prejudices you hold over Pardew. IF and that's a sizable if, Pardew has intentionally left his name out, I would imagine it's him again trying to spark a reaction from Ranger due to his persistent poor time keeping etc. I am a bit - but i still think it's a shoddy way of trying to motivate a player (that's if i'm wrong and he really is trying to motivate him). It'd be nice, btw, if you could admit the same thing when it comes to Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I agree with Yorkie here. Ranger goes from starting against Brum to not even being considered for the first team or mentioned by the manager in a month. I don't think things are going well between the pair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I was annoyed when i first read it; i can't deny that part of that is because i don't like Pardew and i like Ranger... it's just a daft bias that happens all the time. However, whilst i can see the thinking behind Pardew not mentioning his name (it's clearly intended, whatever the reason behind it), i just don't like seeing managers communicating with players through the press. Using the newspapers as a canvas to form a relationship with one of your players is, i think, a bit unprofessional. Keep your dirty washing in the changing room, imo - it helps maintain squad harmony. Imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wasn't he on the bench yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wasn't he on the bench yesterday? Yup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wasn't he on the bench yesterday? Yup I'm going to ignore that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Dino the bad influence! For Pardew perhaps, but I'm sure there's been talk about his attitude towards training before that (including late to and missing training), might even be in this thread. If Pardew is having a go at Ranger for something which happened before Pardew arrived then he's a bigger prick than I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Dino the bad influence! For Pardew perhaps, but I'm sure there's been talk about his attitude towards training before that (including late to and missing training), might even be in this thread. If Pardew is having a go at Ranger for something which happened before Pardew arrived then he's a bigger prick than I thought. Well, that's not what I meant at all. He might have been late for Pardew once, which he's laid the law down on. Now Pardew is trying to improve Ranger's general attitude towards training. I was simply saying, he had been late in the past (before Pardew arrived). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 166 page for nothing..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yorkie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 166 page for nothing..... I know, he could've been a good player for us n'all. I guess we'll never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well, that's not what I meant at all. He might have been late for Pardew once, which he's laid the law down on. Now Pardew is trying to improve Ranger's general attitude towards training. I was simply saying, he had been late in the past (before Pardew arrived). If Pardew has laid the law down because Ranger has been late once than I hope that he does it with everybody. As for his apparent attitude towards training, what is wrong with his attitude? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Read the thread, Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I was annoyed when i first read it; i can't deny that part of that is because i don't like Pardew and i like Ranger... it's just a daft bias that happens all the time. However, whilst i can see the thinking behind Pardew not mentioning his name (it's clearly intended, whatever the reason behind it), i just don't like seeing managers communicating with players through the press. Using the newspapers as a canvas to form a relationship with one of your players is, i think, a bit unprofessional. Keep your dirty washing in the changing room, imo - it helps maintain squad harmony. Imo. But, how do you know....ah fuck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Read the thread, Mick. I have read the thread and keep hearing about problems with Ranger but nothing specific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Scored a hatrick for reserves today against Wigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I was annoyed when i first read it; i can't deny that part of that is because i don't like Pardew and i like Ranger... it's just a daft bias that happens all the time. However, whilst i can see the thinking behind Pardew not mentioning his name (it's clearly intended, whatever the reason behind it), i just don't like seeing managers communicating with players through the press. Using the newspapers as a canvas to form a relationship with one of your players is, i think, a bit unprofessional. Keep your dirty washing in the changing room, imo - it helps maintain squad harmony. Imo. But, how do you know....ah fuck it So he just completely forgot about one of his players? That'd be even less professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I was annoyed when i first read it; i can't deny that part of that is because i don't like Pardew and i like Ranger... it's just a daft bias that happens all the time. However, whilst i can see the thinking behind Pardew not mentioning his name (it's clearly intended, whatever the reason behind it), i just don't like seeing managers communicating with players through the press. Using the newspapers as a canvas to form a relationship with one of your players is, i think, a bit unprofessional. Keep your dirty washing in the changing room, imo - it helps maintain squad harmony. Imo. But, how do you know....ah f*** it So he just completely forgot about one of his players? That'd be even less professional. Not necessarily. He didn't name every striker that we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Forget about the vendetta bullshit. None of us know what really goes on at the club. If he was called John Smith rather than Nile Ranger, didn't have a twitter account and wasn't "gangsta" I bet most people would barely give a toss about him. Having said that, well done on the hat-trick. He needs to make sure he goes all out in training to impress the staff and other players. That's how to make the first team. He's just signed a 5 and a half year contract. Plenty of time for him to make it (if he puts the effort in). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Dino the bad influence! For Pardew perhaps, but I'm sure there's been talk about his attitude towards training before that (including late to and missing training), might even be in this thread. If Pardew is having a go at Ranger for something which happened before Pardew arrived then he's a bigger prick than I thought. Any excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Newcastle reserve team manager Peter Beardsley has tipped Nile Ranger for a bright future at St. James' Park - providing the teenage striker is prepared to "listen and learn". Ranger, 19, caught the eye with a hat-trick for the second string as they defeated Wigan 5-1 at the Training Centre on Monday. And Beardsley, who scored 119 goals for the Magpies in 326 appearances, believes the forward has huge potential. "That's what the boy is about - we know he can score goals," Beardsley told nufc.co.uk. "Sometimes he needs to work harder, but when you're a goalscorer that's what you are known for. And when all our punters look at the stats they will see he scored three goals and will be delighted."His second one in particular was outstanding. The first was great skill to do what he did, but for me the second was outstanding. "If I'm being really honest it probably surprised me. When he ran away from their player that was never in doubt, but the way he dummied, stepped inside the player and bent it in the far post was great skill. "With four other senior strikers also vying for first team spots, Beardsley believes Ranger may have to be patient for his chance. But he is confident that a Newcastle United education can bring the best out of the youngster. "We obviously know he's going to be good, but he's still a kid," said Beardsley. "In real terms and in terms of football he is still a kid. He hasn't played more than 100 games yet. "We hope he can go a long way, but he knows it's a long road. "Through no fault of his own he's almost moved down the pecking order a bit - Besty's scored a hat-trick, then you've got Peter Lovenkrands, Shola and hopefully Andy isn't too far away from being fit. "However, if he is prepared to listen and learn then he has a very bright future." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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