Robster Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 4 days into the Premiership season. Did we really expect the players to be up for this one ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Whoever the cocommentator is hes got an agenda against Becks Hes not having the greatest game but he is far from the worst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 4 days into the Premiership season. Did we really expect the players to be up for this one ?? Not really, but one would hope that the manager would be tactically up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Jenas on. Woohoo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quklaani Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are shit for England...think there might be a reason for that. Then again, paradoxically I think Gerrard and Terry never really perform for England cause they're actually no way near as good as people think. Biased I know, but I still think their comparitive club form backs me up. A final word on England's best players being crap. People whinge and whinge and whinge about Lampard and Gerrard together in a midfield. How is it always Lampard's fault? Why is it he, who is clearly not a centre mid and doesnt pretened to be, who should suffer to accomodate the most headless of all chickens? If England want to make any progress Saint Steven should be dropped until he learns how to actually play in midfield, which will be never I'd guess. Lampard should be allowed to play in his inimitable Lampardy way, with a pair of midfielders behind him who know how to defend. I've noticed this place brings out the rants in me, I'm not sure why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kadafi Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I like that dude Rozenhal. Hes having a good game tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 But at the same time, what have the Czech really done? England at least try to play some football, Czech hasnt really done anything except scoring two goals. You've not watched it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I think Fergie is turning Rooney into Alan Smith. Did he have a shot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That'll save them a booing from the cockney wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz What a pile of sh*t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Is Capello Sam Allardyce in a disguise? Midfielders shoe-horned into positions and relying on lumping it up to the big men on corners and freekicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Serbia Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/capello.jpg ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are shit for England...think there might be a reason for that. O'Shea was on the bench too. I guess that makes him Beckenbauer Jesper Blomqvist - who? - started the 1999 final too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Does anyone still watch England? Why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are shit for England...think there might be a reason for that. With players like him who've come through the ranks at Man United, I always wonder whether if they played for someone else, would Ferguson be interested in signing them, & Brown is one of the "No's" along with Phil Neville, Darren Fletcher & Nicky Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I didn't think the opposition was anything great, so it's a worry. I hope there's some master plan unfolding in Capello's mind, because it looks to me like he doesn't know what to do. I'd definitely play Bentley rather than Beckham. We need someone who can get forward from the right, and Beckham tends to wander around inside too much and get in other players' way. Joe Cole definitely on the left, and Barry and Gerrard in the middle, I'd play. Seems obvious. I've given up on Lampard. He looks so good for Chelsea, but they are nearly always better than the opposition they're playing, and that gives him lots of space and freedom. He's not the same player when he has to scrabble around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quklaani Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are s*** for England...think there might be a reason for that. O'Shea was on the bench too. I guess that makes him Beckenbauer Jesper Blomqvist - who? - started the 1999 final too. Stunning arguments these. Wes Brown is the first choice right back for the European and League champions (and was also one of our best players in the European final, which is more than you can say for Jesper.) The other two were never more than squad players. Hes no world beater, but hes a good player, and easily better than most of the shite that play for the national team. If he's so crap why haven't we signed a replacement, because we're so poor? Hell we've even sold one of his main competitors for a place in the back four. He might be the weakest link in the best back four around, but thats only because the other 3 are amongst the best players in the world in their positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are shit for England...think there might be a reason for that. Then again, paradoxically I think Gerrard and Terry never really perform for England cause they're actually no way near as good as people think. Biased I know, but I still think their comparitive club form backs me up. A final word on England's best players being crap. People whinge and whinge and whinge about Lampard and Gerrard together in a midfield. How is it always Lampard's fault? Why is it he, who is clearly not a centre mid and doesnt pretened to be, who should suffer to accomodate the most headless of all chickens? If England want to make any progress Saint Steven should be dropped until he learns how to actually play in midfield, which will be never I'd guess. Lampard should be allowed to play in his inimitable Lampardy way, with a pair of midfielders behind him who know how to defend. I've noticed this place brings out the rants in me, I'm not sure why. Frank Lampard's not a central midfielder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Harry's a bit upset... can't say any of that suprised me, said when he capello was appointed that he may play a narrow midfield 4 with central midfielders like Gerrard out wide, that he'd obsess about big strong lads in the middle, that we'd play with no pace and the likes of Young would have no place in his team, and that Heskey would probably be back in the squad as Capello loves physical forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are shit for England...think there might be a reason for that. Then again, paradoxically I think Gerrard and Terry never really perform for England cause they're actually no way near as good as people think. Biased I know, but I still think their comparitive club form backs me up. A final word on England's best players being crap. People whinge and whinge and whinge about Lampard and Gerrard together in a midfield. How is it always Lampard's fault? Why is it he, who is clearly not a centre mid and doesnt pretened to be, who should suffer to accomodate the most headless of all chickens? If England want to make any progress Saint Steven should be dropped until he learns how to actually play in midfield, which will be never I'd guess. Lampard should be allowed to play in his inimitable Lampardy way, with a pair of midfielders behind him who know how to defend. I've noticed this place brings out the rants in me, I'm not sure why. Frank Lampard's not a central midfielder? can see what quklaani is saying. i don't think he's a traditional central midfielder who can play in a 4-4-2 (well obviously he can, but he won't be at his best). When he's been at his best for Chelsea he's almost like a withdrawn striker bursting forward, bit like Owen for us at the end of last season, and he's had two midfielders behind him doing the more traditional 'central midfield' work. Same is true for Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are s*** for England...think there might be a reason for that. O'Shea was on the bench too. I guess that makes him Beckenbauer Jesper Blomqvist - who? - started the 1999 final too. Stunning arguments these. What? Using the same rationale as you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quklaani Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are s*** for England...think there might be a reason for that. Then again, paradoxically I think Gerrard and Terry never really perform for England cause they're actually no way near as good as people think. Biased I know, but I still think their comparitive club form backs me up. A final word on England's best players being crap. People whinge and whinge and whinge about Lampard and Gerrard together in a midfield. How is it always Lampard's fault? Why is it he, who is clearly not a centre mid and doesnt pretened to be, who should suffer to accomodate the most headless of all chickens? If England want to make any progress Saint Steven should be dropped until he learns how to actually play in midfield, which will be never I'd guess. Lampard should be allowed to play in his inimitable Lampardy way, with a pair of midfielders behind him who know how to defend. I've noticed this place brings out the rants in me, I'm not sure why. Frank Lampard's not a central midfielder? Not really, he's diabolical in a two man midfield. Put him behind the forward(s) and allow him to do his thing, and he'll always get you goals. if you partner him with some scouse pillock who overhits every second pass and whose idea of defending is to go in two footed and 3 seconds late then what can you expect? This is a very extreme and quite inaccurate comparison...but would you play Riquelme alongside Gerrard? What? Using the same rationale as you? My rationale was that Brown starts for United week in week out for a reason, your response was: "but John O'shea gets on the bench and Jesper Blomqvist played when Keane and Scholes were suspended!!!!!!" Stunning bit of logic that. Sod it, lets hear your genius directly, if Wes Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle United, why does Alex Ferguson play him for Manchester United? Heres a hint: its probably not because he says the word "hospikal." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Harry Redknapp in the studio. Great television. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 If I may interject... Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle, never mind England. Good enough to start for the european champions though. The stick Brown gets never ceases to amaze me. Same with Rooney, both are great players for the best team around, yet apparently are s*** for England...think there might be a reason for that. Then again, paradoxically I think Gerrard and Terry never really perform for England cause they're actually no way near as good as people think. Biased I know, but I still think their comparitive club form backs me up. A final word on England's best players being crap. People whinge and whinge and whinge about Lampard and Gerrard together in a midfield. How is it always Lampard's fault? Why is it he, who is clearly not a centre mid and doesnt pretened to be, who should suffer to accomodate the most headless of all chickens? If England want to make any progress Saint Steven should be dropped until he learns how to actually play in midfield, which will be never I'd guess. Lampard should be allowed to play in his inimitable Lampardy way, with a pair of midfielders behind him who know how to defend. I've noticed this place brings out the rants in me, I'm not sure why. Frank Lampard's not a central midfielder? Not really, he's diabolical in a two man midfield. Put him behind the forward(s) and allow him to do his thing, and he'll always get you goals. if you partner him with some scouse pillock who overhits every second pass and whose idea of defending is to go in two footed and 3 seconds late then what can you expect? This is a very extreme and quite inaccurate comparison...but would you play Riquelme alongside Gerrard? What? Using the same rationale as you? My rationale was that Brown starts for United week in week out for a reason, your response was: "but John O'shea gets on the bench and Jesper Blomqvist played when Keane and Scholes were suspended!!!!!!" Stunning bit of logic that. Sod it, lets hear your genius directly, if Wes Brown isn't good enough for Newcastle United, why does Alex Ferguson play him for Manchester United? Heres a hint: its probably not because he says the word "hospikal." Welcome to the board. I'm sure everyone's going to love your 'Ferguson's word is law' style patter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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