KK resigns - see OP for new club statement issued September 6th

[Guest pont-toon]

and so a half baked smear campaign by the current regime begins

 

if this "club insider" reckoned that keegan was so "mad" and a laughing stock to the staff then why didnt they get rid and why didnt they let him go as soon as he walked out?

 

they are only fuelling the flames the idiots

 

[midds]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

[Cronky]

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly?

 

If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me.

 

I was exaggerating to make a point. To put it better - Keegan wanted ready made players with an established reputation. The Board were looking at players that could be developed.

[Mick]

The only players it seems that were forced on Keegan, were the two on deadline day...even then, Xisco has even said he met with Keegan who told him what the plans were. He walked the day after by the sounds of it. Could Keegan REALLY not have just calmed down, got on with it for a bit, and THEN went to Ashley or whoever with his concerns?

 

I've said the same about Keegan carrying on but I think what is happening now shows the club to be run by tossers, I wouldn't work for them.

[johnnypd]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

 

if the quotes in the Sun are true, Keegan will have no option but to fight this, otherwise he'll owe the club £2m. shocking tbh.

[Guest elbee909]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

 

if the quotes in the Sun are true, Keegan will have no option but to fight this, otherwise he'll owe the club £2m. shocking tbh.

 

Should have a whip round to pay his legal costs.

[timnufc22]

People we really need to be relentless in getting these lying con men out, we really do. At some point maybe 'acceptance' potentially kicks in, but that is simply not an option, we have the power, and we need to stand up big time for what is right.

[Baggio]

and so a half baked smear campaign by the current regime begins

 

if this "club insider" reckoned that keegan was so "mad" and a laughing stock to the staff then why didnt they get rid and why didnt they let him go as soon as he walked out?

 

they are only fuellig the flames the idiots

 

 

They did let him go, Keegan just didn't want to come out and say he'd quit as he would owe the club £2 million.

[johnnypd]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

 

if the quotes in the Sun are true, Keegan will have no option but to fight this, otherwise he'll owe the club £2m. shocking tbh.

 

Should have a whip round to pay his legal costs.

 

[midds]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

 

if the quotes in the Sun are true, Keegan will have no option but to fight this, otherwise he'll owe the club £2m. shocking tbh.

 

Absolutely.

 

Both sides are calling the other liars. The statements tonight are just the opening shots.

 

 

[NJS]

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly?

 

If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me.

 

I was exaggerating to make a point. To put it better - Keegan wanted ready made players with an established reputation. The Board were looking at players that could be developed.

 

Whats wrong with both?

 

Basically we've been asked to be patient and wait for the new system to evolve (fair enough) but at the same time turn up this season and expect no great push for climbing the table.

 

Do they think that fits Newcastle?

 

 

[Guest black n white]

place your bets now....ashley out by the end of the week

 

they have basically presented their whole case for the tribunal in the news of the world..

 

this will be over sooner than everybody thinks......woohoo

[johnnypd]

The only players it seems that were forced on Keegan, were the two on deadline day...even then, Xisco has even said he met with Keegan who told him what the plans were. He walked the day after by the sounds of it. Could Keegan REALLY not have just calmed down, got on with it for a bit, and THEN went to Ashley or whoever with his concerns?

 

I've said the same about Keegan carrying on but I think what is happening now shows the club to be run by tossers, I wouldn't work for them.

 

aye. looking at the stuff released from both sides it seems the communication and working relationship had detoriated beyond repair.

[Wullie]

If NUFC are so big on developing young players with high re-sale value (and we discount Danny Guthrie), who are we talking about? Colo's 26 and already an established Argentinian international, Jonas is 25, Gonzalez is 26 and on loan, which leaves us with Bassong and Xisco. Hardly Arsenal-esque is it? I appreciate they're bringing academy players in but I really don't think academy players he didn't want would have been an issue for KK (unless he's seen Nile Ranger's Myspace and that's what kicked everything off).

 

Incidentally, the quote from this horrendous smear campaign - "Now where’s the resale value of any of those players?" hurts the club a lot more than it does KK.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly?

 

If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me.

 

I was exaggerating to make a point. To put it better - Keegan wanted ready made players with an established reputation. The Board were looking at players that could be developed.

 

But the club are claiming he had final say so if he wanted ready made players with an established reputation....

 

I actually think he wanted both types of player and only got one, the ones recommended by others.

 

Not that I think is what is causing all this.

[timnufc22]

Keegan wanted to manage the club like Chelsea.

 

Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly?

 

If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me.

 

I was exaggerating to make a point. To put it better - Keegan wanted ready made players with an established reputation. The Board were looking at players that could be developed.

 

To make a bit of ££ when selling them on? Its cynical, but 'cynical' really does seem to read 'truthful' now.

[JH]

Statement in respect of further comments from Newcastle United F.C.

The directors of Newcastle United Football Club have late this evening issued a statement. The League Managers Association and Kevin Keegan made the following response.

 

Richard Bevan, LMA chief executive, said:

 

Kevin Keegans chief complaint, amongst others, is that it was always agreed that the director of football could not impose a player that the manager did not want. This agreement has been broken and, notwithstanding the fact that the chairman at the time of Kevin Keegans appointment, the director of football and the owner of Newcastle United, have confirmed previously in public meetings and publications, that he would always have the final say.

 

Kevin Keegan said:

 

At the time at which I joined Newcastle United Football Club it was made very clear to me that I would have the final say on player movement in and out of the club.

 

The following quotes are reproduced from published articles:

 

In the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle) on 1st February this year, Newcastle Uniteds executive director of football, Dennis Wise, said: I am here to help Kevin as much as possible with bringing young players through and also recommending certain players to him. He will say yes or no. He has the final word. No-one else. I am not going to do things like bring players in behind his back. I am not into that. Everything that happens will be run past him and he will say yes or no.

 

In an interview that appears in the September edition of the official Newcastle United magazine Mike Ashley said: "If the deal is right - and that means the right player who Kevin wants - then we will do that deal. Kevin himself is very particular about who he wants. To use his words, they have to have the right heart for Newcastle. That is massively important for him. If they don't then he's not interested."

 

For further information please contact:

 

Richard Bevan, LMA Chief Executive, 07860 474 767

 

 

And so the inevitable slanging match begins

[Guest Geordiesned]

This is going to end up in court. Each side is saying the other broke the contract and are digging their heels in.

 

And the only loser will be the club. Dragged through the fucking dirt yet again. 

 

if the quotes in the Sun are true, Keegan will have no option but to fight this, otherwise he'll owe the club £2m. shocking tbh.

 

Absolutely.

 

Both sides are calling the other liars. The statements tonight are just the opening shots.

 

 

 

I think the club have shown themselves to be liars without the need for anyone to point it out by releasing a statement that completely contradicts what as individuals they've told the press and the official club magazine.

[Syrette]

place your bets now....ashley out by the end of the week

 

they have basically presented their whole case for the tribunal in the news of the world..

 

this will be over sooner than everybody thinks......woohoo

 

?

 

You think a tribunal will end Ashley's reign of terror?

[Guest elbee909]

Where's the big investment in the academy, come to think of it?  I was kind of waiting for some big overhaul but we got some staff members in and that was about it.

[johnnypd]

If NUFC are so big on developing young players with high re-sale value (and we discount Danny Guthrie), who are we talking about? Colo's 26 and already an established Argentinian international, Jonas is 25, Gonzalez is 26 and on loan, which leaves us with Bassong and Xisco. Hardly Arsenal-esque is it? I appreciate they're bringing academy players in but I really don't think academy players he didn't want would have been an issue for KK (unless he's seen Nile Ranger's Myspace and that's what kicked everything off).

 

Incidentally, the quote from this horrendous smear campaign - "Now where’s the resale value of any of those players?" hurts the club a lot more than it does KK.

 

yep, doesnt make us look especially ambitious. what happened to caring about how good the player was on the pitch and what they can bring to the club while they are here?

 

turns out for various reasons that Craig Bellamy and Laurent Robert had very litle resale value, but the impact they had on the club being a success on the pitch was massive.

[Cronky]

At the end of the day, I do think the Board have made a mistake here. Although I'm pretty sure they've been hard done by here, they're not going to win a PR battle with Keegan. He's too well established.

[Guest]

The only players it seems that were forced on Keegan, were the two on deadline day...even then, Xisco has even said he met with Keegan who told him what the plans were. He walked the day after by the sounds of it. Could Keegan REALLY not have just calmed down, got on with it for a bit, and THEN went to Ashley or whoever with his concerns?

 

I've said the same about Keegan carrying on but I think what is happening now shows the club to be run by tossers, I wouldn't work for them.

 

So surely Keegan knew what the score was for quite a while then. If he felt that strongly against it, couldn't he have walked away from it earlier?

[indi]

NUFC have every right to air their views, looks like keegan's as much to blame

 

They've got another thing coming when Keegan will air his side of the story, especially if it strategically timed at a couple of hours before next Saturday's match.. Doubt if Keegan will stoop to the same levels as this bunch though..

 

Sorry, but if you think Keegan hasn't been having his say for months, then you're seriously deluded!!

 

Where do you think the media have been getting all their inside info from!?!

 

Who'd have thought naive old KK would have totally gotten the better of cynical hard-nosed businessman Mike Ashley in the manipulation stakes, f***ing hell man he's had us all fooled, the blokes a PR genius!! A media manipulator par excellence.

 

I have no idea what you're trying to imply here

 

That doesn't surprise me.

 

I'm not implying anything I'm saying that Keegan, or someone on his behalf or with his interests at heart, has been talking to the media for months planting stories showing things from his point of view. That's not an implication its a direct accusation. I was one of the people who had been saying it was bollocks and the press were just making things up and s***-stirring because they didn't know what was going on, but seeing as it's now obvious that they knew exactly what was going on - or at least one side of it anyway - I've had to reassess my view, I was wrong.

 

People have been talking about Keegan having signed a confidentiality agreement, but I'd expect that's a totally pointless exercise as his view will undoubtedly turn up in the papers anyhow.

 

Well, maybe the fact that you were "one of the people who had been saying it was bollocks and the press were just making things up" should tell you aren't a very good judge of characters. A few people on here had been sceptical about Ashley and his middle management long before any of this came to light. Maybe some people in the press are also better judges of characters than you. You were wrong before in judging this whole affair by your own admission, so what makes you so convinced you've got it all figured out now..?

 

Perhaps because I'm able to admit to getting things wrong and know that no-one gets everything right all the time, unlike the vast majority of people on here seemingly.

 

Are you saying that you've never got anything wrong before, because if you have then you may as well answer you're own question. If you "haven't" then... ...well I'll know not to bother continuing with this conversation.

 

As for the people who were questioning Ashley's middle management, it's not what they were doing, but why they were doing it that's important when deciding whether or not their judgement's any good or not. If they were doing it because they had thought about the situation and had analysed it and eventually come to the same conclusion that was being reported in the press then kudos to them, they're either a very powerful psychic or a club-insider. If they were simply swallowing everything they read in the press and then regurgitating it onto these pages then I would suggest that their judgement in general would be very poor and their judgement in this specific case would none existent as they had made no judgement, simply restated someone else's.

 

As for my ability to judge character, well nah, I'm not actually going to go into that, my judgement of character is telling me that's not a very good idea.

 

Again, you are showing yourself to be a poor judge of character; people like Tsunami, johnnypd and me have not jumped on the bandwagon last year when most people on here and in the press thought Ashley's shit smelled of roses. We have decided to judge the new owner and management on its actions and its results and we have often been slayed and riduculed for it by people who labelled us doom mongers. Since I'm not English I hardly even read the press; I don't need to press to form an opinion on something. I am perfectly happy to do that myself. No need to go all "That doesn't surprise me." on me.

 

Ok, I'm going to go an talk to someone else for a while.

[Syrette]

At the end of the day, I do think the Board have made a mistake here. Although I'm pretty sure they've been hard done by here, they're not going to win a PR battle with Keegan. He's too well established.

 

A huge mistake to make.