Is this the worst time you have had being a supporter of NUFC?

[madras]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

[madras]

No. Being dismantled by Souness has to be the worst time, that was the fall from grace after such an epic, unappreciated revival. It really feels like our last chance now, our time has now past.

 

I'm not sure...maybe? Not sure if staying down here and keep fuking up is worse than falling, it's certainly a bad time and one of the worst for anyone under 30.

 

 

 

Worst time for me. If this was happening after January things might be different, we still have plenty of time to turn the season completely around, in that respect there is still hope.

 

However this is without a doubt the most humiliated I feel for being a Newcastle fan. In a way I will also feel a bit insulted if Keegan and Shearer do get appointed, its like a patronising pat on the head to appease the masses.

how do you get humiliated ?

[Thomson Mouse]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

Aye I remember the Leicester game, eyes being put out and Leicester not being punished at all.

[madras]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

Aye I remember the Leicester game, eyes being put out and Leicester not being punished at all.

best actual game i've been to for the tension and feeling. leicester could have went up that day and came for a party.

[Mick]

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

Leicester was a hell hole and we always ended up having to fight our way to the car/van/mini bus.  We parked near the Leicester Tigers ground the season we avoided relegation and ended up going to the hospital to pick one lad up who had been beaten senseless.

[midds]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

You're not Billy Furious, are you?

[gazza ladra]

Yes.

[madras]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

You're not Billy Furious, are you?

no. i did have a mate who suspected i was for a year or two mind.

[heero]

yes

[madras]

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

Leicester was a hell hole and we always ended up having to fight our way to the car/van/mini bus.  We parked near the Leicester Tigers ground the season we avoided relegation and ended up going to the hospital to pick one lad up who had been beaten senseless.

we'd hired a bus. told everyone we saw that we were going to chesterfield after to throw them off the scent that we were actually going to nottingham. it appears everyone was doing the same thing as nottigham was awash with geordies that night, a riot ensued that i wasn't party to but i still ended up in the cells and got home 11pm on the sunday.

[Guest BooBoo]

Stood in the away end at Derby in 1992, watching the fourth Derby goal go in and thinking that's it. Feeling powerless to do anything about it as a clueless ref sent off our 3rd player (although I've never experienced an atmosphere like it since). SJH warning that the club may not survive if we were relegated.

 

Actually, come to think of it, I think that was when one of mates unscrewed one of the light bulbs from the scoreboard, took it home and tried it in his bedroom for a couple of days. It was like the fucking aliens were landing in his room. He got bollocked for the size of the leccy bill as well.

 

So some happy memories as well.

 

I was at that game and the support in adversary was unreal. Simply wouldnt happen these days sadly.

 

Brian fecking Coddington was the ref.

[Thomson Mouse]

that was partly offset by it being one of the best/funniest seasons i've ever had for going to away games. ipswich,watford,leicester being highlights and bournemouth in the cup hitting legendary status. that season was only equalled byt he following promotion season.

 

Leicester was a hell hole and we always ended up having to fight our way to the car/van/mini bus.  We parked near the Leicester Tigers ground the season we avoided relegation and ended up going to the hospital to pick one lad up who had been beaten senseless.

 

Aye, I remember a woman being punched in front of her toddler and seeing a bloke pulled back out of an ambulance and given another kicking.

 

I also remember Bill Borrows writing that it was just a little scuffle in 4-4-2 magazine (I think it was called that then). He f***ing hates us, the Manc prick.

 

For me the worst game for tension that season was the 1-0 win against Portsmouth at home. That was when we really avoided relegation.

 

I was at that game and the support in adversary was unreal. Simply wouldnt happen these days sadly.

 

Brian fecking Coddington was the ref.

 

Yep, horrible little skinny twat. Fairly sure he was pushed down the leagues after that game.

[toontownman]

No. Being dismantled by Souness has to be the worst time, that was the fall from grace after such an epic, unappreciated revival. It really feels like our last chance now, our time has now past.

 

I'm not sure...maybe? Not sure if staying down here and keep fuking up is worse than falling, it's certainly a bad time and one of the worst for anyone under 30.

 

 

 

Worst time for me. If this was happening after January things might be different, we still have plenty of time to turn the season completely around, in that respect there is still hope.

 

However this is without a doubt the most humiliated I feel for being a Newcastle fan. In a way I will also feel a bit insulted if Keegan and Shearer do get appointed, its like a patronising pat on the head to appease the masses.

how do you get humiliated ?

 

General torrents of abuse by anyone I know that isnt a Newcastle fan, be it at work, out of work, via email etc..

 

The upside is I think everyone is actually getting bored with the mock jokes, emails and jibes seeing as it is just something of a norm now.

 

Its probably not a problem living in Newcastle but its a shitter when your outside! I dont have to put up with the general negativity all around though.

[cp40]

Im not sure if its the worse, ( i was at every game last time we were relegated), but i cant ever remember feeling this doomed as early as September.

 

As gimp told me tho, at least there is enough season left to turn things around. Something must happen between now and the end of jan Tho.

[Mick]

we'd hired a bus. told everyone we saw that we were going to chesterfield after to throw them off the scent that we were actually going to nottingham. it appears everyone was doing the same thing as nottigham was awash with geordies that night, a riot ensued that i wasn't party to but i still ended up in the cells and got home 11pm on the sunday.

 

Me and my mates went down by van and we went to Wakefield afterwards, we had no trouble, got mortal and also got home on Sunday for different reasons to you but I'll keep that off the forum. 

[Guest Edd]

Not even close to being the worst I've experienced, but it comes top for the sheer frustration of being in complete limbo until the sale goes through.

[Big Geordie]

It's as bad a time for me, since the playoff defeat to Sunderland in 1990.

[J7]

The Souness era was the worst for me, just because it was such a contrast to what had went before. We were good before he joined and he destroyed us.

 

The current situation comes close though. We are the joke of the nation, not just the footballing world, the nation!

[madras]

No. Being dismantled by Souness has to be the worst time, that was the fall from grace after such an epic, unappreciated revival. It really feels like our last chance now, our time has now past.

 

I'm not sure...maybe? Not sure if staying down here and keep fuking up is worse than falling, it's certainly a bad time and one of the worst for anyone under 30.

 

 

 

Worst time for me. If this was happening after January things might be different, we still have plenty of time to turn the season completely around, in that respect there is still hope.

 

However this is without a doubt the most humiliated I feel for being a Newcastle fan. In a way I will also feel a bit insulted if Keegan and Shearer do get appointed, its like a patronising pat on the head to appease the masses.

how do you get humiliated ?

 

General torrents of abuse by anyone I know that isnt a Newcastle fan, be it at work, out of work, via email etc..

 

The upside is I think everyone is actually getting bored with the mock jokes, emails and jibes seeing as it is just something of a norm now.

 

Its probably not a problem living in Newcastle but its a shitter when your outside! I dont have to put up with the general negativity all around though.

just ask them if they'd still support their club through anything ?

 

at work all the mackems who actually go to the games will talk sensibly about our position as i have done with their scrapes. the part time mackems attempt to take the piss to which i tell them i've been to their ground more than they have. even the proper mackems tell them to piss off and are embarrassed by them.

[NE5]

 

do you think we will match the league position we achieved under even souness, and could you tell us when exactly such unhappiness and level of demonstration occurred, even when Souness was manager ?

 

do you remember the last time (and the only time in my life) when the players suffered such upheavel behind the scenes ?

 

 

 

I don't know what position we'll reach this season as we have so much going on behind the scenes, anything could happen.  Yes I do remember the last time we went through this sort of thing with the behind the scenes shite, it was when Sir John was trying to get control of the club.

 

so it hasn't happened since then ?

 

Thanks.

 

 

[NE5]

FWIW, I don't think its any different to any other time, you just have to regroup and get back up. After previous relegations we have spent a long time getting back, so I hope it would be quicker.

 

If NUFC tap their crowd potential, they have an advantage over most club, but this has always the big question with Newcastle, or was in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

Thanks. I was interested in your opinion on the matter.

His opinion is of no less importance, or interest than anyone else's.

And I can name a dozen at least that its worth a LOT more than...(you NOT being one of them, by the way !)

 

thanks Phil.

 

Do you have an opinion, one thats worthwhile 

[NE5]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also shit when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

 

Canell ? Natrass ?

 

The "likes of Nattrass" was one of the best defenders and the best right back I have ever seen play for this club.

 

And - the players had the right to go on strike just like anybody else. If anything it should tell you how strongly they felt about the situation ie losing Gordon Lee, who went to Everton, because the board didn't have the ambition that he had.  Are you one of those who thinks selling MacDonald was completely responsible for our relegation despite the players supporting the manager who decided to let him go ?

 

Oh, it was nothing to do with money.

 

 

[madras]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also s*** when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

 

Canell ? Natrass ?

 

The "likes of Nattrass" was one of the best defenders and the best right back I have ever seen play for this club.

 

And - the players had the right to go on strike just like anybody else. If anything it should tell you how strongly they felt about the situation ie losing Gordon Lee, who went to Everton, because the board didn't have the ambition that he had.  Are you one of those who thinks selling MacDonald was completely responsible for our relegation despite the players supporting the manager who decided to let him go ?

 

Oh, it was nothing to do with money.

 

 

agree with quite a bit of that expect you fail to point out they forced richard dinniss on us which was an absolute disaster. the players may have had a point but their solution was a fucking disaster

[NE5]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also s*** when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

 

Canell ? Natrass ?

 

The "likes of Nattrass" was one of the best defenders and the best right back I have ever seen play for this club.

 

And - the players had the right to go on strike just like anybody else. If anything it should tell you how strongly they felt about the situation ie losing Gordon Lee, who went to Everton, because the board didn't have the ambition that he had.  Are you one of those who thinks selling MacDonald was completely responsible for our relegation despite the players supporting the manager who decided to let him go ?

 

Oh, it was nothing to do with money.

 

 

agree with quite a bit of that expect you fail to point out they forced richard dinniss on us which was an absolute disaster. the players may have had a point but their solution was a fucking disaster

 

yes they did. But you have to be honest, and say that, at the time, they were doing quite well and in the short term Dinnis re-united the dressing room, restored stability and is the reason why we got through the season and kept hold of the european place.

 

Eerily, and unhappily, its a similar suggestion to the situation now that restoring Keegan would do, in the short and immediate term anyway.

 

Dinnis was indeed out of his depth when all the dust settled.

 

 

[madras]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also s*** when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

 

Canell ? Natrass ?

 

The "likes of Nattrass" was one of the best defenders and the best right back I have ever seen play for this club.

 

And - the players had the right to go on strike just like anybody else. If anything it should tell you how strongly they felt about the situation ie losing Gordon Lee, who went to Everton, because the board didn't have the ambition that he had.  Are you one of those who thinks selling MacDonald was completely responsible for our relegation despite the players supporting the manager who decided to let him go ?

 

Oh, it was nothing to do with money.

 

 

agree with quite a bit of that expect you fail to point out they forced richard dinniss on us which was an absolute disaster. the players may have had a point but their solution was a f***ing disaster

 

yes they did. But you have to be honest, and say that, at the time, they were doing quite well and in the short term Dinnis re-united the dressing room, restored stability and is the reason why we got through the season and kept hold of the european place.

 

Eerily, and unhappily, its a similar suggestion to the situation now that restoring Keegan would do, in the short and immediate term anyway.

 

Dinnis was indeed out of his depth when all the dust settled.

 

 

the players were buoyed in the short term by the confidence of not doing too bad at the time. the appointment of roeder permanently is a closer example.