NJS Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 True, i'm all for an owner who likes the club but why not someone like Randy Lerner, we never see or hear about him but he puts Villa first. The difference is investment and ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Sorry missed Guthrie. There was a supposed change when Wise et al arrived - they sold it as a concentration on young upcoming players as you said - That's fine on its own - all I said was that 4 out of 6 signings from one country does not suggest a wide-ranging international scouting network - it suggests a head of recruitment/chief scout combo who ring their mates. Fair point, obviously i cant argue with that but we were linked with players within that policy from other clubs around europe as well. Gomis, Skeljbred, Zayatte, Gomis, Digard, all pretty solidly linked with the club which does show that it was more extentisve. Why they werent signed is up for debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Sorry missed Guthrie. There was a supposed change when Wise et al arrived - they sold it as a concentration on young upcoming players as you said - That's fine on its own - all I said was that 4 out of 6 signings from one country does not suggest a wide-ranging international scouting network - it suggests a head of recruitment/chief scout combo who ring their mates. Fair point, obviously i cant argue with that but we were linked with players within that policy from other clubs around europe as well. Gomis, Skeljbred, Zayatte, Gomis, Digard, all pretty solidly linked with the club which does show that it was more extentisve. Why they werent signed is up for debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Sorry missed Guthrie. There was a supposed change when Wise et al arrived - they sold it as a concentration on young upcoming players as you said - That's fine on its own - all I said was that 4 out of 6 signings from one country does not suggest a wide-ranging international scouting network - it suggests a head of recruitment/chief scout combo who ring their mates. Fair point, obviously i cant argue with that but we were linked with players within that policy from other clubs around europe as well. Gomis, Skeljbred, Zayatte, Gomis, Digard, all pretty solidly linked with the club which does show that it was more extentisve. Why they werent signed is up for debate. Accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Sorry missed Guthrie. There was a supposed change when Wise et al arrived - they sold it as a concentration on young upcoming players as you said - That's fine on its own - all I said was that 4 out of 6 signings from one country does not suggest a wide-ranging international scouting network - it suggests a head of recruitment/chief scout combo who ring their mates. Fair point, obviously i cant argue with that but we were linked with players within that policy from other clubs around europe as well. Digard, Skeljbred, Zayatte, Gomis, Digard, all pretty solidly linked with the club which does show that it was more extentisve. Why they werent signed is up for debate. Fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buzza Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 If he spermed up 20 million worth of signings in january we would all be lickking his fat erse again... Sad fact, but that is fickle football as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 30 November 2008 ASHLEY ON WAY BACK TO TOON THE INSIDE STORY AT ST JAMES' He'll go to home games again By James Courage Mike Ashley is ready to make a stunning return to St James' Park. Newcastle's billionaire owner is set to end his Tyneside exile after calling a temporary halt to his bid to sell the club. Wantaway Ashley became a hate figure with furious Toon Army foot soldiers after the shock exit of boss Kevin Keegan. He put up the 'for sale' signs two months ago, claiming he had been driven out by the adverse fan reaction to Keegan's departure. The super-rich sportswear magnate and his so called 'Cockney Mafia' have not been to a home match since, saying he fears for the safety of his family after angry supporters mounted protests. But he has now pencilled in the Premier League home game with West Ham on January 10 to test the water among fans after sensing a thaw in relations since handing Joe Kinnear a six-month contract until the end of the season. Kinnear has called for both sides to bury the hatchet for the good of the club. He said: "I think he will come back to games and I'd like to think he'd get a good reception from supporters and that everyone will just concentrate on the football. "A lot of it in my opinion could have been sorted out a lot more amicably. But I'd like to think that if we have a good FA Cup run and get ourselves in the top 10, then I think he'd be accepted. "In my discussions with him he's suggested he might be able to come back to games in future and I said to him 'why not come up here?'." Ashley is increasingly confident fans will call a truce to their hate campaign when they see the extent to which he plans to back Kinnear in January as the former Wimbledon boss looks to lure Blackburn duo Stephen Warnock and Christopher Samba and a mystery Dutch target - though Kinnear may still have to bring in some cash from sales. Kinnear added: "He's definitely keeping the club as it is now until the end of the season. I said to him I'm sure once you've invested and we're up and running and you've sorted out all your problems around the club, it's probably your time to get a pat on the back. "I said 'if I was you I'd still come up and bring your kids up'. He said once we get it up and running and everything dies down and we're running it as a club without any aggravation, he probably will do.' Kinnear, meanwhile, confirmed last week's People Sport exclusive about Alan Shearer turning down a coaching role at Toon. Kinnear said: "He said it was a very kind offer but he wasn't ready for it yet, and I said 'That's fine'." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I don't see what he has done to warrant a thawing if the only money available in Jan is via sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 He can fuck off and die for all i care. hes doing a pretty good impression of somebody who has.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 There's another well-timed story in the NoW revealing Ashley hasn't paid off all the debt he's claimed. One step forward two steps back for Big Mike's quest to sit with the fans again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc_kev Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Kinnear added: "He's definitely keeping the club as it is now until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Ashley = cunt. Bought the club on a whim and has fucked up big time and lied to us. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = cunt. Came back to pay of his debts, fucked off and lied to us. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = c***. Came back to pay of his debts, f***ed off and lied to us. c***. aye reet. you can blame KK all you want but all the evidence points to wise and crew not bringing in the players. Hence why our squad is so small. And do you really believe that a man like KK came back to NUFC just so he could get paid a few months wages then walk out on us and blame other people. Fucking hell man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = c***. Came back to pay of his debts, f***ed off and lied to us. c***. aye reet. you can blame KK all you want but all the evidence points to wise and crew not bringing in the players. Hence why our squad is so small. And do you really believe that a man like KK came back to NUFC just so he could get paid a few months wages then walk out on us and blame other people. Fucking hell man. keegan himself said he only needed 3 or 4 players. ignore that part though. i dont know. he definitely did have financial problems with his circus thing and now he doesnt. this was a rather well known fact before he even took over. i remember a thread on here saying as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My conditions for his returning are this: A full, honest statement explaining what happpened during the summer. An apology to the fans for the turmoil he has caused. At least £20m spent on the first team in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My conditions for his returning are this: A full, honest statement explaining what happpened during the summer. An apology to the fans for the turmoil he has caused. At least £20m spent on the first team in January. Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My conditions for his returning are this: A full, honest statement explaining what happpened during the summer. An apology to the fans for the turmoil he has caused. At least £20m spent on the first team in January. Good luck with that. Its not rocket science like, if he wants back then he knows what he has to do. If he just skulks back in then fuck him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robster Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My conditions for his returning are this: A full, honest statement explaining what happpened during the summer. An apology to the fans for the turmoil he has caused. At least £20m spent on the first team in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My conditions for his returning are this: A full, honest statement explaining what happpened during the summer. An apology to the fans for the turmoil he has caused. At least £20m spent on the first team in January. Aint going to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = c***. Came back to pay of his debts, f***ed off and lied to us. c***. aye reet. you can blame KK all you want but all the evidence points to wise and crew not bringing in the players. Hence why our squad is so small. And do you really believe that a man like KK came back to NUFC just so he could get paid a few months wages then walk out on us and blame other people. f***ing hell man. keegan himself said he only needed 3 or 4 players. ignore that part though. i dont know. he definitely did have financial problems with his circus thing and now he doesnt. this was a rather well known fact before he even took over. i remember a thread on here saying as much. It was all speculation from the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = cunt. Came back to pay of his debts, fucked off and lied to us. Cunt. to be fair thats just embarassing. offer a reasoned argument as to why you think KK is 100% at fault man. thats just ignorant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Keegan = c***. Came back to pay of his debts, f***ed off and lied to us. c***. aye reet. you can blame KK all you want but all the evidence points to wise and crew not bringing in the players. Hence why our squad is so small. And do you really believe that a man like KK came back to NUFC just so he could get paid a few months wages then walk out on us and blame other people. f***ing hell man. keegan himself said he only needed 3 or 4 players. ignore that part though. i dont know. he definitely did have financial problems with his circus thing and now he doesnt. this was a rather well known fact before he even took over. i remember a thread on here saying as much. It was all speculation from the media. so was/is most of the shit everybody is crucifying ashley and wise over. the keegan debt story IS true as the financial papers have been released and back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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