Ronaldo Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 makes me laugh that James Milner is still in the under 21's. He's 24 years old in 6 months ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 That u21s team doesn't excite me at all. I didn't watch this tournament for exactly that reason. If I'm watching u21s I want to be watching genuinely exciting talents playing football that's easy on the eye. We had a bunch of 21-23 year old bully boys who were probably bigger and more experienced than everyone else; Muamba, Noble, Cattermole, Milner, Taylor (had he been fit), Onuoha, etc. Who in that squad do we really hold out any hope for? I guess Richards could get his act back together again, Walcott and Agbonlahor are on the way up and Hart looks decent. Maybe Johnson? Most of that squad will or should never get anywhere near being regulars in the first team squad. Boring as owt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 That u21s team doesn't excite me at all. I didn't watch this tournament for exactly that reason. If I'm watching u21s I want to be watching genuinely exciting talents playing football that's easy on the eye. We had a bunch of 21-23 year old bully boys who were probably bigger and more experienced than everyone else; Muamba, Noble, Cattermole, Milner, Taylor (had he been fit), Onuoha, etc. Who in that squad do we really hold out any hope for? I guess Richards could get his act back together again, Walcott and Agbonlahor are on the way up and Hart looks decent. Maybe Johnson? Most of that squad will or should never get anywhere near being regulars in the first team squad. Boring as owt. Nail on. They were actually talking about this during the Semifinal here in Sweden. I think Englands starting 11 had something like 800 premiership appearances or something like that between them where as Sweden had a couple of Premiership appearances, a bunch of Eredivisie and a lot of Swedish Allsvenskan players. And it showed especially in the first half, it was men against boys especially at the set-plays. Where Sweden tried to rely on technically sound players like Bajrami, Elm, Berg, Toivonen and even the full backs Johansson and Lustig to actually outplay the opposition whether it was Italy, Belarus or England, England only tried to be tougher, stronger and wiser than their opponents. And save for THAT crossbar header from Berg in the semis wouldn't have gotten into the finals. I'd be willing to wager that most of the starting 11 in Sweden will be better regarded in the future than the English. Most of the English players will be average PL-players at best IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Watching the U21 squad showed me there was a lot of Piano carriers not many piano players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Watching the U21 squad showed me there was a lot of Piano carriers not many piano players. Steady on, Dunga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Watching the U21 squad showed me there was a lot of Piano carriers not many piano players. Steady on, Dunga. It's a Brazilian term and I love it, it explains the concept in such an eloquent way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 That u21s team doesn't excite me at all. I didn't watch this tournament for exactly that reason. If I'm watching u21s I want to be watching genuinely exciting talents playing football that's easy on the eye. We had a bunch of 21-23 year old bully boys who were probably bigger and more experienced than everyone else; Muamba, Noble, Cattermole, Milner, Taylor (had he been fit), Onuoha, etc. Who in that squad do we really hold out any hope for? I guess Richards could get his act back together again, Walcott and Agbonlahor are on the way up and Hart looks decent. Maybe Johnson? Most of that squad will or should never get anywhere near being regulars in the first team squad. Boring as owt. Nail on. They were actually talking about this during the Semifinal here in Sweden. I think Englands starting 11 had something like 800 premiership appearances or something like that between them where as Sweden had a couple of Premiership appearances, a bunch of Eredivisie and a lot of Swedish Allsvenskan players. And it showed especially in the first half, it was men against boys especially at the set-plays. Where Sweden tried to rely on technically sound players like Bajrami, Elm, Berg, Toivonen and even the full backs Johansson and Lustig to actually outplay the opposition whether it was Italy, Belarus or England, England only tried to be tougher, stronger and wiser than their opponents. And save for THAT crossbar header from Berg in the semis wouldn't have gotten into the finals. I'd be willing to wager that most of the starting 11 in Sweden will be better regarded in the future than the English. Most of the English players will be average PL-players at best IMO. Agreed. This is what I meant a couple of pages back in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 was Matt Derbyshire even in the squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 was Matt Derbyshire even in the squad? Apparently not; I was gonna say he was over 21 but then realised that means fuck all for the U-21s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 They have to be 21 or under when the campaign starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Derbyshire's a few months older than James Milner so he was probably too old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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