Carlito Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 apart from goal's what does owen offer the team? Where would we be without Owen's goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 apart from goal's what does owen offer the team? Where would we be without Owen's goals? i'm sure there would be another player filling his hole and scoring maybe 50-75% of his goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 apart from goal's what does owen offer the team? It's strikers job to score goal...but you're right he offers nothing to justify his huge wage. With that wage he should be scoring like h*ll and creating at least one in 2 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Since Butt has been here, you could probably count on one hand the amount of good performances he's put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Rubbish, Jonas is not consistent, which is his problem. Nicky Butt on the other hand is consistently shite, has one good game in 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre How can you be so wrong about a player. Its his inconsistency which is the issue but then, first season in England and an injury tends to mitigate for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Thats so backwards to how it actually is. You really think that if he was shit there wouldnt be the comparisons with Marcelino and any other vague foreign failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Since Butt has been here, you could probably count on one hand the amount of good performances he's put in. And Jonas was pratically a free transfer with half of the wage Butt makes! At least Jonas is trying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I hope JFK crucifies Mike Dean in the SSN interview so badly his is given a lifetime touchline ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Butt wouldn't be getting half the shit he's getting now if he had been "mediocre" today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I see Jonas being given 6's and 7's all around. He was quite s*** tbh, and that is an understatement. Our best players were Viduka and Guthrie (who incidentally had a woeful first half, and only saved face with a terrific 2nd half) If Jonas was English, he'd be crucified. Makes me laugh how so many people can call Butt a complete waste of space five days after he was excellent against Spurs, yet Jonas gets away with being consistently mediocre Butt wouldn't be getting half the s*** he's getting now if he had been "mediocre" today. Yep but if he had been mediocre...we most probaly would have got something from this game as well no matter how much Dean tried to help poor Wigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Kinnear's just had a pop at Dean. Wouldn't be surprised if the FA ask him to explain his comments tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 If we had a creative MC, then Butt would just be a bit-part player being used as and when. It's why a quality playmaker is a MUST during the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Kinnear's just had a pop at Dean. Wouldn't be surprised if the FA ask him to explain his comments tbh. What did he say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Kinnear's just had a pop at Dean. Wouldn't be surprised if the FA ask him to explain his comments tbh. Deservedly so...Dean should be asked to explain his decisions tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Kinnear's just had a pop at Dean. Wouldn't be surprised if the FA ask him to explain his comments tbh. Nah you could tell how carefully Joe was trying to choose his words. He didnt say anything "Mickey Mouse" esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Kinnear's just had a pop at Dean. Wouldn't be surprised if the FA ask him to explain his comments tbh. What did he say? Said the referee "was there to be conned". Shocking decisions etc. Also mentioned Enrique pulled his hamstring and we've "got 8 or 9" out for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 How was Carroll? I see Xisco made the bench so I'm annoyed he didn't get any minutes. Only just got home. well done andy carroll did more than viduka and owen put together This. He has won quite a few headers and create chaos for Wigan defenders. Fair play to him if that's the case. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jawesome Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Just got back from the game (Im staying in Chorley for the night) and i've got to say Mike Dean is a fucking disgrace. What a penis. All we can ask for is consistency. Carroll's was never a pen, Cattermole should have been sent off, If Ryan Taylors free kick was a free kick, then so was the incident 30 seconds earlier involving Viduka, their penalty incident was a complete farce, Nicky Butt needs his contract ripping up, Viduka should retire NOW, and our support was amazing. GG's go to Guthrie (mainly for effort) and Carroll (for going down and conning the ref for the umpteenth time in the match). Fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Just got back from the game now and I have to say Viduka is a disgrace. Never seen such a disgrace to the shirt. He didnt even try all game, just lumbered around the pitch and then had the brass neck to just walk off the pitch and straight down the tunnel. Him and Butt need there contracts tearing up infront of their faces. Wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Just got back from the game now and I have to say Viduka is a disgrace. Never seen such a disgrace to the shirt. He didnt even try all game, just lumbered around the pitch and then had the brass neck to just walk off the pitch and straight down the tunnel. Him and Butt need there contracts tearing up infront of their faces. Wankers. how did you view, duff & owen's performance and the one of the ref? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Is there anyone who can defend Given's positioning for that freekick? Good keeper but an absolute master at conceding from long range, happens far too often martin keown influencing your opinion, is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Duff only knows 2 ways, to the side and backwards, too ineffective. Owen tried but he didnt get a chance made for him, which his game now, needs. The ref made some shocking decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 We were generally s**** all over the park today. Aye maybe the ref should of given this or not that but it doesn't hide the fact we were rotten for mos of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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