Optimistic Nut Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well that's not going to happen, so the pressure is on him to score about 75-80% of the goals Torres did imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 if the 7th most expensive player of all time can't bag 20 goals a season he's failed really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Im sure this has come up, so apologies if it has. How good does AC need to be over the next, say....6 years, to justify his price? Look at guys like David Villa who have done it for a long time. AC was more expensive than him. How many goals would consider it good business? How many goals would consider him a flop? I say 15 a season for next 6-10 seasons would be the PAR. Above is success, below is failure. Thoughts? if they win the league or CL when he's a regular in their team it's a success - that's how success is judged these days, not what the individual does imo Agree with this. I wouldn't see Carroll primarily as a goalscorer, though he should get a few. His power in the air should create a few chances for his team mates, and he'd also act as a very good target man. However, looking at the very very top sides, they don't usually play with a big, gangly striker like Carroll. It's a question of whether Carroll can be so good at what he does, that he overcomes his natural limitations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still fail to see who's going to put those crosses for him at Liverpool. Guess it will be winger shopping time in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still fail to see who's going to put those crosses for him at Liverpool. Guess it will be winger shopping time in the summer. Heard they're after Routledge for £8m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Back on march 9th for derby against man utd apparently. What are you confused about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Sadly he is going to be a great success. We, of all people know what a good player he has become. Selling him has laid down a marker to our other players with ambition that they cannot hang around here to get it next season. The Carrol sale will have triggered the departure of others with European aspirations I am afraid. If a local lad is not prepared to 'live the dream' on Tyneside we can hardly expect foreigners to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Back on march 9th for derby against man utd apparently. What are you confused about? Are you suggesting that "Lancashire derby" has any sort of currency? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 he was meant to be back for the smb match too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Back on march 9th for derby against man utd apparently. What are you confused about? i'm not confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still fail to see who's going to put those crosses for him at Liverpool. Guess it will be winger shopping time in the summer. Fullbacks ? Or carragher's row z hoofs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think it will take a long, long time before I emotionality can start watching him again. Feel terrible of just the though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 This cunt still exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still fail to see who's going to put those crosses for him at Liverpool. Guess it will be winger shopping time in the summer. agree with that, seems a signing just made on a whim rather than real research into what type of player he is (though anyone with a vague notion about football could tell you how he works) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still fail to see who's going to put those crosses for him at Liverpool. Guess it will be winger shopping time in the summer. agree with that, seems a signing just made on a whim rather than real research into what type of player he is (though anyone with a vague notion about football could tell you how he works) Gerrard will pump the long and high ball up through the middle and Carroll will knock down. He's a support striker for Suarez not a main focus like he was for us. If they ever do go down the winger route they've got the perfect reason to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Sadly he is going to be a great success. We, of all people know what a good player he has become. Selling him has laid down a marker to our other players with ambition that they cannot hang around here to get it next season. The Carrol sale will have triggered the departure of others with European aspirations I am afraid. If a local lad is not prepared to 'live the dream' on Tyneside we can hardly expect foreigners to do it. No I have to disagree, look at all of his goals, who gets invloved? Barton and Nolan, without them he's quite literally nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 They've got Gerrard and Meirelles tbf, both have exelent passing ability, Glen Johnson despite been fucking rubbish defensively is exelent going forward and can whip a ball in. Although he won't be the talisman upfront like he was at Newcastle he has a much better striker partner in Suarez, as hard as it is to take he will more than likely be a huge success at Liverpool, and will continue to dominate most defenses he comes across. The fucking greasy slag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 They've got Gerrard and Meirelles tbf, both have exelent passing ability, Glen Johnson despite been f***ing rubbish defensively is exelent going forward and can whip a ball in. Although he won't be the talisman upfront like he was at Newcastle he has a much better striker partner in Suarez, as hard as it is to take he will more than likely be a huge success at Liverpool, and will continue to dominate most defenses he comes across. The f***ing greasy slag. Please lets focus on the negatives He has never dominated defences unless Barton and Nolan are also doing the same. BTW I do honestly believe that after Liverpools draw with Wigan the bubble has burst and they'll be crap from here on in. Every team is good for a while when they get a new manager before going back to being crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/04/john-w-henry-interview-liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think it will take a long, long time before I emotionality can start watching him again. Feel terrible of just the though I felt awful when I first saw Shay Given in a Man City shirt, now it makes me laugh to see the greedy bastard on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Where does he say when the Carroll deal was actually agreed? Also where's the info on £30m being up front?, sorry I just haven't look at this thread for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. the 30mill up front was widely reported as was a sell on clause but not the size of it and that is a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. Was just going to post that. Absolutely fantastic bit of business by Ashley and co. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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