Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Sadly he is going to be a great success. We, of all people know what a good player he has become. Selling him has laid down a marker to our other players with ambition that they cannot hang around here to get it next season. The Carrol sale will have triggered the departure of others with European aspirations I am afraid. If a local lad is not prepared to 'live the dream' on Tyneside we can hardly expect foreigners to do it. No I have to disagree, look at all of his goals, who gets invloved? Barton and Nolan, without them he's quite literally nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 They've got Gerrard and Meirelles tbf, both have exelent passing ability, Glen Johnson despite been fucking rubbish defensively is exelent going forward and can whip a ball in. Although he won't be the talisman upfront like he was at Newcastle he has a much better striker partner in Suarez, as hard as it is to take he will more than likely be a huge success at Liverpool, and will continue to dominate most defenses he comes across. The fucking greasy slag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 They've got Gerrard and Meirelles tbf, both have exelent passing ability, Glen Johnson despite been f***ing rubbish defensively is exelent going forward and can whip a ball in. Although he won't be the talisman upfront like he was at Newcastle he has a much better striker partner in Suarez, as hard as it is to take he will more than likely be a huge success at Liverpool, and will continue to dominate most defenses he comes across. The f***ing greasy slag. Please lets focus on the negatives He has never dominated defences unless Barton and Nolan are also doing the same. BTW I do honestly believe that after Liverpools draw with Wigan the bubble has burst and they'll be crap from here on in. Every team is good for a while when they get a new manager before going back to being crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/04/john-w-henry-interview-liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think it will take a long, long time before I emotionality can start watching him again. Feel terrible of just the though I felt awful when I first saw Shay Given in a Man City shirt, now it makes me laugh to see the greedy bastard on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Where does he say when the Carroll deal was actually agreed? Also where's the info on £30m being up front?, sorry I just haven't look at this thread for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. the 30mill up front was widely reported as was a sell on clause but not the size of it and that is a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. Was just going to post that. Absolutely fantastic bit of business by Ashley and co. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Liverpool probably don't plan to sell the kid, unlike some, so I doubt the 25% will come in handy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Liverpool probably don't plan to sell the kid, unlike some, so I doubt the 25% will come in handy. they will if they get the right offer...see torres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I doubt he'll be at Liverpool the rest of his career. Btw , how much does £30 Million in the bank accrue in interest each month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I doubt he'll be at Liverpool the rest of his career. Btw , how much does £30 Million in the bank accrue in interest each month? At the moment, about 30p per annum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Liverpool probably don't plan to sell the kid, unlike some, so I doubt the 25% will come in handy. they will if they get the right offer...see torres. True. I guess we'll see. Say if we did buy him back, does this clause still work? We could effectively bid 1/4 over what we want to pay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Liverpool probably don't plan to sell the kid, unlike some, so I doubt the 25% will come in handy. they will if they get the right offer...see torres. True. I guess we'll see. Say if we did buy him back, does this clause still work? We could effectively bid 1/4 over what we want to pay? divvent, i've been drinking wine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Caulkin just tweeted that we've banked £30m up front on this deal, and we have a 25% sell-on clause. Cracking deal that tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 25% sell-on profit or full transfer amount? Crazy deal that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 25% sell on clause, Ashely bent the bin dippers over and made them call him daddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 25% sell on clause, Ashely bent the bin dippers over and made them call him daddy. Chelsea tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's a crazy deal. The timing of it and the message it sends out still leaves a sour taste mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If we were to buy him back would we get 25% off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If we were to buy him back would we get 25% off? No, these clauses are voided if the buying club is the one to benefit. But if there were competing bids you could get Liverpool to agree to a lower amount since they'd be keeping all the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/04/john-w-henry-interview-liverpool if as he says there, Henry was 'surprised to receive a bid of £50m on the monday morning from chelsea' it must mean that Chelsea knew the Carroll price was £35m on the sunday night. As he says himself, Chelsea were aware the price Liverpool were willing to sell Torres at was the price of Carroll + £15m. Therefore, to have that surprising bid on monday morning of £50m means the price was known on sunday night and there was no 'raising' of the price later on monday by us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I reckon I almost qualify as an ITK. Was at a Liverpool talk in yesterday with Dalglish and Hansen - Dalglish said that the deal for Carroll was agreed on Sunday night. Apparently we then upped the price on Monday after we saw all the press on it and on Torres. So Liverpool upped their price for Torres from Chelsea. LFC's owner has already confirmed the deal was done 24 hours before Ashley 'accepted' Carrolls request and reluctantly accepted LFC's bid. LFC's owner knew the price Chelsea would need to pay for Torres would be £15m more than NUFC wanted for Carroll so they could balance the books with the £6m they made off the other centre forward they sold (who's name escapes me) Carroll and the bloke from Holland for torres. Link? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/04/john-w-henry-interview-liverpool if as he says there, Henry was 'surprised to receive a bid of £50m on the monday morning from chelsea' it must mean that Chelsea knew the Carroll price was £35m on the sunday night. As he says himself, Chelsea were aware the price Liverpool were willing to sell Torres at was the price of Carroll + £15m. Therefore, to have that surprising bid on monday morning of £50m means the price was known on sunday night and there was no 'raising' of the price later on monday by us. seems strange that they would say the price of carroll +15mill and not just name a figure in which case they could have got more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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