Alan Shearer contract latest: long gone

[Parky]

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

Completely nowt to do with what quayside said that like.

 

Yeah cause I'm not allowed to take it sideways. 

 

I'll be right about everything ftr.

 

The price.

 

The lack of buyers.

 

and all the other shit that will inevitably follow...

 

Wasn't sideways, just completely irrelivant really.  Good luck with being right about everything though

 

Well at least I wont have to endure you banging on about assets and whatnot in mid-Sept. 

[Teasy]

Why?, is september out of season for financial talk like?

[Parky]

Why?, is september out of season for financial talk like?

 

Redundant if the club ain't been sold by then I guess. But I'm sure you'll drivel on about stadiums and loans and whatever. 

[Teasy]

As long as you stop coming out with frivalous and illogical scenario's I shouldn't need too

[Skirge]

SSN "coming up, what does the future hold for Alan Shearer" SSN got their copy of the Ronnie Gill in no doubt.

[Parky]

As long as you stop coming out with frivalous claims and illogical scenario's I shouldn't need too

 

The club is worth jack shit, the quicker you realise that the quicker I can get on with my work. 

[Parky]

The stadium is only worth what revenue it generates and that is dependent on what is happening on the pitch.

 

But if you are buying the club you would only do so in the expectation that you can deliver success on the pitch - hard as it is to believe I think even Ashley assumed that he would get there eventually. To have the infrastructure already in place for a successful club is a big plus. 

 

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

I didn't say it did.

Read my post - I said if you buy the club you would do so expecting to deliver success on the pitch. And to have the stadium already in place when that success occurs is a big plus.

 

A lot of football clubs have stadiums in place. Who knew?! 

[Dave]

I'll be right about everything ftr.

 

What a cock end.

[Guest toonlass]

The stadium is only worth what revenue it generates and that is dependent on what is happening on the pitch.

 

But if you are buying the club you would only do so in the expectation that you can deliver success on the pitch - hard as it is to believe I think even Ashley assumed that he would get there eventually. To have the infrastructure already in place for a successful club is a big plus. 

 

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

I didn't say it did.

Read my post - I said if you buy the club you would do so expecting to deliver success on the pitch. And to have the stadium already in place when that success occurs is a big plus.

 

A lot of football clubs have stadiums in place. Who knew?! 

 

But some are having to look at building new ones, clubs such as Liverpool, Tottenham and Everton for example. And that will cost lost of money. Good thing we don't have to do that. Eh?

[Parky]

I'll be right about everything ftr.

 

What a cock end.

 

Just fed up with it all.

[Parky]

The stadium is only worth what revenue it generates and that is dependent on what is happening on the pitch.

 

But if you are buying the club you would only do so in the expectation that you can deliver success on the pitch - hard as it is to believe I think even Ashley assumed that he would get there eventually. To have the infrastructure already in place for a successful club is a big plus. 

 

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

I didn't say it did.

Read my post - I said if you buy the club you would do so expecting to deliver success on the pitch. And to have the stadium already in place when that success occurs is a big plus.

 

A lot of football clubs have stadiums in place. Who knew?! 

 

But some are having to look at building new ones, clubs such as Liverpool, Tottenham and Everton for example. And that will cost lost of money. Good thing we don't have to do that. Eh?

 

Yes I got that 20 pages ago.

[Dave]

Everyone is, man.

[Parky]

Everyone is, man.

 

Yeah but it's come as a shock to me, I can normally find summat to be positive about.

[quayside]

The stadium is only worth what revenue it generates and that is dependent on what is happening on the pitch.

 

But if you are buying the club you would only do so in the expectation that you can deliver success on the pitch - hard as it is to believe I think even Ashley assumed that he would get there eventually. To have the infrastructure already in place for a successful club is a big plus. 

 

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

I didn't say it did.

Read my post - I said if you buy the club you would do so expecting to deliver success on the pitch. And to have the stadium already in place when that success occurs is a big plus.

 

A lot of football clubs have stadiums in place. Who knew?! 

 

Really can't be arsed 

[Parky]

The stadium is only worth what revenue it generates and that is dependent on what is happening on the pitch.

 

But if you are buying the club you would only do so in the expectation that you can deliver success on the pitch - hard as it is to believe I think even Ashley assumed that he would get there eventually. To have the infrastructure already in place for a successful club is a big plus. 

 

The infrastructure didn't stop us getting relegated.

 

I didn't say it did.

Read my post - I said if you buy the club you would do so expecting to deliver success on the pitch. And to have the stadium already in place when that success occurs is a big plus.

 

A lot of football clubs have stadiums in place. Who knew?! 

 

Really can't be arsed  

 

Yes it's an asset. But means little without owners prepared to buy for 100m and then invest another 100m as I'm sure you realise.

 

[Dave]

Who would buy NUFC at this stage if they didn't plan to get us back in the Premier League as soon as possible?

[Parky]

Who would buy NUFC at this stage if they didn't plan to get us back in the Premier League as soon as possible?

 

Well quite.

 

It would be the default plan for any buyer, but market factors are very strained now with high player wages and excessive cost to attract talent. Without serious mind bending money, we might have to settle in for a 3 yr return plan of some kind.

[dustynrg]

It's simple, everything is worth whatever someone else will pay for it. So if a consortium thinks NUFC is worth 100 million, theyll pay it. Or offer near to it anyway.

 

 

[afar]

It's simple, everything is worth whatever someone else will pay for it. So if a consortium thinks NUFC is worth 100 million, theyll pay it. Or offer near to it anyway.

 

 

 

Yeah but that wouldn't fit with Parky's agenda of having a bloody argument about anything no matter how irrelevant his stance is.

[UV]

Who would buy NUFC at this stage if they didn't plan to get us back in the Champion's League as soon as possible?

 

FYP for the accepted wisdom of 2007

 

 

I agree though, it's a different situation now, we're pretty much guaranteed to lose £30-£50m this coming year IMO, with a very low chance of bouncing straight back up without substantial investment next year on top of what would be paid to Ashley.

 

There are 2 options for the coming season as I see it, whoever the owner is :

 

1) Maintain the majority of the current squad and hope that though they are inadequate for the PL they are still good enough to do well in the Championship. This gives some chance of promotion (50/50 maybe), but is high risk financially as it's costly not only next season, but for several seasons after if we don't get promoted.

 

2) Decimate the squad and replace with cheaper players. Will still be an expensive season (with the paying up of contracts, loyalty bonuses, paying part of loanee's wages, etc) and will have absolutely no chance of promotion (the disruption could easily be so severe we might see another relegation, I think it would be touch and go). This is high risk for the success of the club, but lower financial risk.

 

 

If I was looking at buying a club as a toy or a status symbol, I wouldn't care less about the ground or it's potential support in the region, and I'd just buy a ready made Premiership club, and spend money on the team to expand it's global popularity.

 

If I was looking at buying a club as an investment, there's no way I'd buy NUFC now unless it was going for peanuts. I'd wait for at least another year, probably 2, until the outgoings from wages had stabilised, taking the risk that we wont be promoted (and thus miss my chance to buy cheaply) and that no other mug will buy it off Ashley in this mess. Just let Ashley absorb the losses for the next couple of years, then when the average crowd is down to around 30k and everyone hates Ashley even more than they do now, buy the club for under £50m all-in if we're still in the Championship, or even less if we've gone down to League 1.

[Parky]

It's simple, everything is worth whatever someone else will pay for it. So if a consortium thinks NUFC is worth 100 million, theyll pay it. Or offer near to it anyway.

 

 

 

Yeah but that wouldn't fit with Parky's agenda of having a bloody argument about anything no matter how irrelevant his stance is.

 

See what you have to say when the next sale deadline passes ringo.

 

IMO 100m is too high and it seriously hampers the sale.

[Parky]

Who would buy NUFC at this stage if they didn't plan to get us back in the Champion's League as soon as possible?

 

FYP for the accepted wisdom of 2007

 

 

I agree though, it's a different situation now, we're pretty much guaranteed to lose £30-£50m this coming year IMO, with a very low chance of bouncing straight back up without substantial investment next year on top of what would be paid to Ashley.

 

There are 2 options for the coming season as I see it, whoever the owner is :

 

1) Maintain the majority of the current squad and hope that though they are inadequate for the PL they are still good enough to do well in the Championship. This gives some chance of promotion (50/50 maybe), but is high risk financially as it's costly not only next season, but for several seasons after if we don't get promoted.

 

2) Decimate the squad and replace with cheaper players. Will still be an expensive season (with the paying up of contracts, loyalty bonuses, paying part of loanee's wages, etc) and will have absolutely no chance of promotion (the disruption could easily be so severe we might see another relegation, I think it would be touch and go). This is high risk for the success of the club, but lower financial risk.

 

 

If I was looking at buying a club as a toy or a status symbol, I wouldn't care less about the ground or it's potential support in the region, and I'd just buy a ready made Premiership club, and spend money on the team to expand it's global popularity.

 

If I was looking at buying a club as an investment, there's no way I'd buy NUFC now unless it was going for peanuts. I'd wait for at least another year, probably 2, until the outgoings from wages had stabilised, taking the risk that we wont be promoted (and thus miss my chance to buy cheaply) and that no other mug will buy it off Ashley in this mess. Just let Ashley absorb the losses for the next couple of years, then when the average crowd is down to around 30k and everyone hates Ashley even more than they do now, buy the club for under £50m all-in if we're still in the Championship, or even less if we've gone down to League 1.

 

The last para summarises my argument.

 

The only quick sale I can see is if it  is a money object buyer.

[Dave]

Who would buy NUFC at this stage if they didn't plan to get us back in the Champion's League as soon as possible?

 

FYP for the accepted wisdom of 2007

 

 

I agree though, it's a different situation now, we're pretty much guaranteed to lose £30-£50m this coming year IMO, with a very low chance of bouncing straight back up without substantial investment next year on top of what would be paid to Ashley.

 

There are 2 options for the coming season as I see it, whoever the owner is :

 

1) Maintain the majority of the current squad and hope that though they are inadequate for the PL they are still good enough to do well in the Championship. This gives some chance of promotion (50/50 maybe), but is high risk financially as it's costly not only next season, but for several seasons after if we don't get promoted.

 

2) Decimate the squad and replace with cheaper players. Will still be an expensive season (with the paying up of contracts, loyalty bonuses, paying part of loanee's wages, etc) and will have absolutely no chance of promotion (the disruption could easily be so severe we might see another relegation, I think it would be touch and go). This is high risk for the success of the club, but lower financial risk.

 

 

If I was looking at buying a club as a toy or a status symbol, I wouldn't care less about the ground or it's potential support in the region, and I'd just buy a ready made Premiership club, and spend money on the team to expand it's global popularity.

 

If I was looking at buying a club as an investment, there's no way I'd buy NUFC now unless it was going for peanuts. I'd wait for at least another year, probably 2, until the outgoings from wages had stabilised, taking the risk that we wont be promoted (and thus miss my chance to buy cheaply) and that no other mug will buy it off Ashley in this mess. Just let Ashley absorb the losses for the next couple of years, then when the average crowd is down to around 30k and everyone hates Ashley even more than they do now, buy the club for under £50m all-in if we're still in the Championship, or even less if we've gone down to League 1.

 

Good post. It's certainly looking very grim.

 

What about a balanced option in between those two though? We get rid of the shit expensive players and keep the ones the manager thinks will get us back up. Still a risk financially but gives a chance of promotion without being quite as expensive if we fail? I imagine this is what will probably happen tbh; players like Beye will be on a fortune for the Championship but is worth the gamble because he's a good player who could get us promoted.

[Teasy]

The club is worth jack shit, the quicker you realise that the quicker I can get on with my work. 

 

Then don't make an offer, I'm sure the club will get along without your millions.

 

Really can't be arsed 

 

Don't blame you

[afar]

It's simple, everything is worth whatever someone else will pay for it. So if a consortium thinks NUFC is worth 100 million, theyll pay it. Or offer near to it anyway.

 

 

 

Yeah but that wouldn't fit with Parky's agenda of having a bloody argument about anything no matter how irrelevant his stance is.

 

See what you have to say when the next sale deadline passes ringo.

 

IMO 100m is too high and it seriously hampers the sale.

 

He's got people biting at 100 million. The final sale could be 100m it maybe less. But so fucking what, as long as the club is selling. The first day we've had some remotely positive vibes in weeks and you are pratittling on about how the club's not worth 100 million, you're a fucking loon. Again who the hell cares ? Lets just hope we get some good news by the end of the month, worry more about that than whether you are proved right that the club is not worth 100mill.