MyPalAl Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 harper has always and always will be a second choice keeper in premier. although jury is very much out on krul I will really really really hate Pardew if he puts Harper back in against Man City Will laugh my cock off at both Harper and Given being on the benches, with young'uns playing in goal And you'll continue to tell lies about the situation, we're all tired of it. Here, wankstain, what the fuck u on about, tell lies about what fucking situation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You need to calm down like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 harper has always and always will be a second choice keeper in premier. although jury is very much out on krul I will really really really hate Pardew if he puts Harper back in against Man City Will laugh my cock off at both Harper and Given being on the benches, with young'uns playing in goal And you'll continue to tell lies about the situation, we're all tired of it. Here, wankstain, what the f*** u on about, tell lies about what f***ing situation? Easy, tiger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I feel for him but Krul needs to start on principle as well as ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Until Krul has two shit games in a row its pointless to replace him. In the end I think they're equally good right now to that extent that Krul lacks experience. He's young but if we want to develop a top goalie he needs to play and gain experience. But of course if he does have two or three shit games in a row it might be debatable to put Harper back in and see what he can do. But Krul has done very well so far, nothing spectacular but also nothing bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sell him in the winter window and bring back Forster to fight Krul for No1 spot. He's not needed here, he might as well move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sell him in the winter window and bring back Forster to fight Krul for No1 spot. He's not needed here, he might as well move on. That's actually not a dumb idea at all. Having Forster, Krul and Söderberg fighting it out for the three spots would be very nice and valuable for all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'd try and sell him to Celtic if we brought back Forster, if Celtic couldn't afford him and we got no offers i'd let him go for free making sure he blocks any potential loan move Given might have his eyes on. Really though Harper is done here, Krul can do 95% of what he can do, whereas he can't manage 50% of what Krul can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I agree. I mean all goalies need experience to develop. Krul won't be at his peak until he's at least 27 or 28. But many seasons in the Premiership will do him wonders. He has shown he's a very good shot stopper, I see his main problem being the balls in the air and commanding his back four, but that comes with experience. I haven't watched Forster to say anything, but I agree with every word of what you said. I think Harper needs to leave, I don't know his wages or anything but think they're around the £25k mark, which is a lot for a goalie who not near as good as Krul or Forster like you seem to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'd stick with Krul. He'll make mistakes but he'll get better. Harper will make mistakes and won't get better. If Forster wants to come back in summer then that would be the right time to move Harper on. But Forster seems quite happy up there and we may have trouble convincing him to come down here to sit on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Reminds me a bit of the City situation a few years ago when they had Isaksson, Hart and Schmeichel, the senior keeper wasn't significantly better than those two and it was inevitable that one of the other two would have to leave for first team football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'd try and sell him to Celtic if we brought back Forster, if Celtic couldn't afford him and we got no offers i'd let him go for free making sure he blocks any potential loan move Given might have his eyes on. Really though Harper is done here, Krul can do 95% of what he can do, whereas he can't manage 50% of what Krul can. The problem is, keeping is about what you should and shouldn't do, not what you can and can't. Keepers are incredibly unique and you can't really apply to same rules to them as you would for outfield players. It really comes down to who we have more confidence in keeping clean sheets in what remains of 2010-11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 From a purely business point of view, we have 3 premier league quality keepers and we only need 2. I'll be shocked if we have all 3 at the start of next season. Krul and Forster would receive the highest amount of money on the market, so i'd be looking to see which one would raise more, then invest the funds into other parts of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 One of them will have to sit on the bench and like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'm expecting Harper to leave then Forster to beat out Krul during pre-season for the No1 Shirt. But Krul should keep ti for the rest of this season baring a few consecutive holwers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'd try and sell him to Celtic if we brought back Forster, if Celtic couldn't afford him and we got no offers i'd let him go for free making sure he blocks any potential loan move Given might have his eyes on. Really though Harper is done here, Krul can do 95% of what he can do, whereas he can't manage 50% of what Krul can. The problem is, keeping is about what you should and shouldn't do, not what you can and can't. Keepers are incredibly unique and you can't really apply to same rules to them as you would for outfield players. It really comes down to who we have more confidence in keeping clean sheets in what remains of 2010-11. Agreed. If you applied the same rules, they wouldn't be allowed to use their hands which would make their job a lot harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Krul's distribution is a million times better than both Harper and Forster, like. Its so nice having a keeper who can kick well following all those years of Given getting the ball passed back to him and just kicking it straight out of play. Harper's kicking is not great either, and neither is Forster's (see Glasgow derby). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Krul's distribution is a million times better than both Harper and Forster, like. Its so nice having a keeper who can kick well following all those years of Given getting the ball passed back to him and just kicking it straight out of play. Harper's kicking is not great either, and neither is Forster's (see Glasgow derby). Eh, Krul's kicking is well dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I disagree. I think his right foot is terrible, and the defence have heightened that at times by kicking it back to his right foot. He's got quite the sweet left peg though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Funny how all of our keepers for the past 10(15?) years have all had "dodgy distribution" Perhaps most keepers just aren't that good at kicking in general? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Krul's distribution is a million times better than both Harper and Forster, like. Its so nice having a keeper who can kick well following all those years of Given getting the ball passed back to him and just kicking it straight out of play. Harper's kicking is not great either, and neither is Forster's (see Glasgow derby). Eh, Krul's kicking is well dodgy. I disagree, he's the most consistently decent kicker we've had, and he can kick it about 8,000 miles. I honestly can't recall a game that I've been to this season where I've been critical of his kicking whereas Harper's kicking from his hands and from the deck is extremely patchy, and Given's was totally awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Off the top of my head, I seem to recall Krul's kicking being appalling against Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Believe it or not, the best keeper for kicking we've had in the PL is Mike Hooper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 You really do hate Harper don't you Me hates him too. Bloody awful keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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