Should Owen be dropped?

[mrmojorisin75]

 

I have never hated a toon player so much and will always remember him as the one scumbag who bled this club dry

 

i've been gearing up nicely for a looooong time to hate owen and i feel i'll be able to really give it some if the inevitable happens

 

the negative impact this one player has had on our club since the buffoons paid so much for him and him so much can not be underestimated

 

arguably it went seriously wrong the day he arrived so i feel fully justified in blaming him for everything (i'm joking before anyone starts)

[Guest toonlass]

Seeing that we like our contraversial banners we could make one for Owen before he goes. "Michael Owen....bled our club dry!"

[Guest neesy111]

Seeing that we like our contraversial banners we could make one for Owen before he goes. "Michael Owen....bled our club dry!"

 

if we go down b4 the fulham game, i'm taking a banner

 

thanks nufc players, you's are all shit and got this club relegated

[Guest Alan Shearer 9]

the suffragettes have got a lot to bloody answer for.

[Guest]

Next season he'll score 15+ goals at wherever he is, people on here will whinge, "well why the f*ck didn't he do that here", when the fact is it'll be because he's playing in a decent side.

[Taylor Swift]

Next season he'll score 15+ goals at wherever he is, people on here will whinge, "well why the f*ck didn't he do that here", when the fact is it'll be because he's playing in a decent side.

 

And in every game he doesn't score, he'll do absolutely fuck all. No club with aspirations for the CL will also sign him because he's too limited now. Sorry, but he's done.

[Jayson]

Next season he'll score 15+ goals at wherever he is, people on here will whinge, "well why the f*ck didn't he do that here", when the fact is it'll be because he's playing in a decent side.

 

And in every game he doesn't score, he'll do absolutely f*** all. No club with aspirations for the CL will also sign him because he's too limited now. Sorry, but he's done.

 

Based on.............................

[Jayson]

Hey based in a s*** team that cannot barely pass the ball to eachothers feet, a guy who has based his whole career off getting the ball mostly at his feet on runs isnt as effective as he used to be. He very rarely actually even gets the ball to  have a chance to be.

 

What a mindblowingly confusing f***ing suprise. Lets all decide hes actually s*** because hes not playing as well as he used to in a team hes in doesnt play atall to his strengths.

 

Brilliant brilliant logic.

[wrightstuff83]

based on current performances man!

 

Forget 'the name' and look at him simply as another player in our arting 11, he does NOTHING of any significance during his time on the pitch!

 

When presented with a clear cut one on one in what was a massive game for us he panicked and fluffed it, highlighting his lack of class and current ability.

 

people can slag Martins off but he works hard throughout and has been dropping deep in recent games to get on the ball and at least try and start something!

 

To see our captain jog around the pitch with no effort and absolutely no end product is painful beyond words!

 

survey says...DONE!

[Jayson]

What did martins and viduka do "of significance" ?

 

The only significant thing they did was miss their sitters just like Owen.

 

Martins was on the ball more yes, he also gave the ball away far more because of that.

 

We have no one better, its a simple argument. You need your best finisher on the pitch, he still is.

[Dave]

Good job our best finisher scored our best chance on Monday night. We really needed that one.

[johnnypd]

Good job our best finisher scored our best chance on Monday night. We really needed that one.

 

yeah, thanks a lot Viduka.

[Wullie]

Comparing Viduka's chance to Owen's? 

[Jayson]

Martins had by far the easiest chance so its all irrelevant anyway. Owens chance was a good save, simple as that. Against another keeper its through his legs and in the back of the net.

[Dr Venkman]

Martins had by far the easiest chance so its all irrelevant anyway. Owens chance was a good save, simple as that. Against another keeper its through his legs and in the back of the net.

 

it was awful, if it had gone in it would still have been awful

[wrightstuff83]

Martins had by far the easiest chance so its all irrelevant anyway. Owens chance was a good save, simple as that. Against another keeper its through his legs and in the back of the net.

 

OMG!

 

Owen was one on one with the goal at his mercy, a top class finisher would have taken a touch, looked up and lifted over the keeper.

 

What did our so called best finisher do? Panicked, slidat it and scuffed straight at james, good save my arse!

 

and for the matter, i have no doubt Viduka would have ha the poise and class to slot it hime.

 

Pretty clear your an Owen fan, which i fnd hard to believe at th mo, but keep on playing him and let him continue to be the worst best finisher at the club!

 

Wjhile we are at it, Geremi played for real Madrid at one time and is known as a first class set piece taker and crosser of the ball ,lets get him playing every minute of the run in!

[ElDiablo]

Martins had by far the easiest chance so its all irrelevant anyway. Owens chance was a good save, simple as that. Against another keeper its through his legs and in the back of the net.

 

On the off-chance you're not wumming:

[Guest iliketoonarmy]

Owen isn't even a footballer, let alone captain.

Poor attitude, poor finishes, poor injuries record, poor leadership...

Sorry but I just can't find anything good about him for that fucking money the club has paid him.

[dustynrg]

I just get the impression he's desperate to avoid injury in case his move to wherever falls through. He's not captain material at all and wouldn't be captain at any other club. Beye should be Captain - at least he looks like he could give a shit.

[Mistle17]

Owen isn't even a footballer, let alone captain.

Poor attitude, poor finishes, poor injuries record, poor leadership...

Sorry but I just can't find anything good about him for that f***ing money the club has paid him.

 

Were you saying that in the back end of last season when Owen was our top scorer under Keegan?

 

Quite frankly, Owen hasn't played enough number of games for us in his 4 seasons at the club- no way he has- but considering the amount of goals he's scored for us in those games he's just about been value for money.

 

Imo, the situation is fairly simple; drop Owen or Martins and play one of them alongside Carroll or Viduka (Viduka preferably, imo). Who would you rather drop? Hmmmm, its a tough one- both Owen and Oba have been exceedingly shite of late but I'd have to say drop Oba. Owen WILL get us more goals than Oba.....his record proves that. Yes, Owen's miss against Pompey was very poor, especially for his standards, but I'm more than confident he would have finished Oba's chance.

 

Owen keeps the ball very well for us, imo. Especially if you take into account his size. Martins cant hold up the ball....infact he cant do all that much. We stand a much better chance of keeping possession and saving it from coming right back at us if we have Owen and Viduka/Carroll upfront.

 

Tbh, I'm really not too fussed if Owen's dropped or not. Either way he wont make a difference because we don't create any chances. It doesn't matter who we play upfront, if we don't create chances and dont have players who can pass a ball, then your strikers aren't going to score. We create virtually nothing so we score nothing.

 

But despite all this Owen is a very poor choice of captain. No rallying the troops or owt like that......the only thing he does well is keep a cool head. But if I were a player I certainly wouldn't look towards Owen for inspiration and leadership.

 

[Jayson]

Martins had by far the easiest chance so its all irrelevant anyway. Owens chance was a good save, simple as that. Against another keeper its through his legs and in the back of the net.

 

OMG!

 

Owen was one on one with the goal at his mercy, a top class finisher would have taken a touch, looked up and lifted over the keeper.

 

What did our so called best finisher do? Panicked, slidat it and scuffed straight at james, good save my arse!

 

and for the matter, i have no doubt Viduka would have ha the poise and class to slot it hime.

 

Pretty clear your an Owen fan, which i fnd hard to believe at th mo, but keep on playing him and let him continue to be the worst best finisher at the club!

 

Wjhile we are at it, Geremi played for real Madrid at one time and is known as a first class set piece taker and crosser of the ball ,lets get him playing every minute of the run in!

 

This is getting boring tbh

 

A top class finisher isnt normally put under the pressure of playing in a side as shit as ours that gives him once chance every 10 games, between which he barely even gets to touch the ball.

 

You along with many others have no ability to actually look at the situation clearly and with consideration, you are to busy looking for someone to blame.

 

I was as fucked off as anybody that owen didnt score, same with Martins & Viduka. Im not actually even actually a massive fan of owen, i just think its pretty clear hes our best finisher at the club and the guy most likely to save us from relegation. There are endless logical reasons to come to this conclusion, ive been through them all a lot of times....its pretty basic stuff.

 

The comparison to Geremi is laughable as you surely know.

[Taylor Swift]

The fact that he doesn't touch the ball is no one's fault but his own. For some reason, Martins seems to touch the ball. Viduka touches the ball. Carroll is involved. Hmm, I wonder why Owen's the only one of our strikers who never seems to be involved in the general play.

[Taylor Swift]

Next season he'll score 15+ goals at wherever he is, people on here will whinge, "well why the f*ck didn't he do that here", when the fact is it'll be because he's playing in a decent side.

 

And in every game he doesn't score, he'll do absolutely f*** all. No club with aspirations for the CL will also sign him because he's too limited now. Sorry, but he's done.

 

Based on.............................

 

This is the type of player that Owen's always been. Only before, he had a ton of chances per game because his pace created those opportunities for him. Now? He's slow, weak and doesn't give a shit. Hence the indifferent performances and the zero chances for him.

 

Every other striker in our team causes trouble for the opposition except Owen. When Viduka is positioned just outside the penalty area with his back to goal, I'm screaming for someone to pass the ball in because I know he'll control it and stuff will happen because he can create it. When we counter-attack, I'm always hoping someone will play a ball into space for Martins because I know he's going to get there before almost anyone in the Premiership. When Carroll's on, I'm hoping that our shit crosses end up in his vicinity because he's determined to get a good head on any ball that's launched towards him. With Owen? What does he offer to the team? No pace, no passion, no leadership (can't believe he's still captain), limited involvement and now he's lost the ability to finish. Excuses were always made for him whenever he came from an injury - 'oh, he needs to get his fitness and sharpness back' - but it's been nearly 2 months since he recovered from his last injury and he's shown nothing that suggests he deserves a place in the team and that we should hope one of the few chances that we inevitably create per game is his to finish.

[Taylor Swift]

Where do people get this idea that he's a top class finisher? He's an instinctive finisher, which is why many of the goals in his career are the 'I'm going to put my foot out there and let's see what happens'. He's got great movement in the penalty area and his anticipation of the game is still up there, but that means that his finishes are of the instinctive variety, rather than the pure finishing ability that you'd associate with someone like Shearer or Van Nistelrooy. When those guys had a chance, you knew they would score. I have never had that feeling with Owen. I have had the feeling that Owen will score in a match because he gets himself so many chances by supreme movement and outfoxing defenders, but I don't have the feeling on any given chance that it's guaranteed that Owen finishes this off. I know it's shit logic to base my argument on my own feelings, but his performances and especially the chances he misses support my claim. The biggest difference between this season and every other for him is that he's getting fewer chances because of the team he's playing in. All of our strikers are, but he's suffering the most because instead of getting 3 or 4 chances per game in which he'll finish 1 because he gets into a rhythm, he's now getting 1 or 2 over several games and because there's no rhythm/feel to his finishing, he's finishing none.

[Taylor Swift]

I also don't think a big club will sign him, even though he'll probably get them 15 goals a season, because clubs can't afford to carry players like him anymore. Liverpool could because his pace meant he could create a few chances on his own, but now that he's slow and has to be fed everything, he's not getting into a big team unless he takes a massive pay cut. Look at the strikers that good teams have: Berbatov, Rooney, Torres, van Persie, Drogba, even guys like Yakubu and Carew. All of them offer something more to the team, and this is now something that Owen lacks because his pace has gone. Shearer compensated the loss of pace by becoming a more physical player and bullying center backs, but what can Owen do? In this respect, I feel sorry for him because his pace was a real factor in why he was so good for so long, so it must be hard for him to even consider changing his style of play.