SUPERTOON Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Breaking news on sky. Deducted 10 points. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8014811.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yep, if they stay up, they get the 10 points docked this season and they go down, but start on 0 points next season. If they go down, they lose the 10 points next season instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Shame for their fans but they've been run appallingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I know a couple of Portsmouth fans who will be delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down. And we're off...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down. And we're off...... wait and see what happens if we go down. Whats wrong with that ? You're paranoid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 just wait and see what our tosspot owner does with us if, or when, we go down. And we're off...... wait and see what happens if we go down. Whats wrong with that ? You're paranoid All this sexual tension in the forum today......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 What does Southampton have to do with us? Fuck all, so piss off spoiling threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 What does Southampton have to do with us? f*** all, so piss off spoiling threads. ban tbh. thats abuse david. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. To stop clubs doing what Leeds did, ie, wait until they were confirmed as relegated before going into Administration, and getting the points docked then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. I suppose they're trying to avoid scenarios like Leeds and Boston where they went into administration after already being relegated, and avoided any real penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 beyond fucking obsession Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. To stop clubs doing what Leeds did, ie, wait until they were confirmed as relegated before going into Administration, and getting the points docked then. Ahh, ok, didn't think of that. That makes sense, Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 bless, poor so'ton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist. Do you not think it's fair that if they take the piss, fuck up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it? The authorities use punishments like this as a warning to other clubs to be more sensible. I agree many players are paid too much, but nobody forces clubs to pay it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist. Do you not think it's fair that if they take the piss, fuck up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it? but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I honestly think it's amazing that England has been able to sustain 5 tiers of professional clubs for so long. I honestly don't think it's going to last that much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism yep, I know that. I just see it as the only way dozens of clubs will survive unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist. Do you not think it's fair that if they take the piss, fuck up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it? but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked. Why is it near impossible? The vast majority of clubs seem to manage. Of course, more money should be filtered down through the football league generally but why should a club be given assistance if they've fucked up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I agree with everything you say there but the last paragraph is leaning dangerously towards socialism yep, I know that. I just see it as the only way dozens of clubs will survive unfortunately. Well, i'm fully with you with the sentiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't see the reasoning behind an either/or assessment of the 10 point penalty. I would think it's logical to assess the penalty for the season in which the move into administration occured, irrespective of where the team finishes in the table. In all seriousness, as we were on about this in the pub last night, if you look down the league tables, more and more clubs are now being deducted points when all they are trying to do is continue to exist. The situation completely shows how the elitisim and damage done since the beginning of the premiership to football in this country. These clubs are trying to hang onto their very existence, a situation caused by the powers that be, and then the same situation forces a deduction of points on them. Madness. In 10 years time, unless money filters down [which isn't going to happen], any amount of teams will not exist anymore. I also think it is the responsibility of the PFA and their chief Gordon Taylor to get his arse in gear and start to look at ways of persuading the higher earning players to accept more discipline in their earnings for the greater good of all their fellow PFA members which would help a great deal. I don't know the ins and outs of the Southampton situation, but fundamentally they've not kept their house in order, that's why they're struggling to continue to exist. Do you not think it's fair that if they take the piss, f*** up their finances and live beyond their means they should be punished for it? but the bigger picture is that it is simply becoming near impossible for these clubs to continue. They need assistance, not points docked. Why is it near impossible? The vast majority of clubs seem to manage. Of course, more money should be filtered down through the football league generally but why should a club be given assistance if they've f***ed up? I think more and more clubs will struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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