Ameritoon Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 He scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Shame that Guthrie's still (blatantly) got that WBA-shaped monkey on his back with some people. He's a more-than reasonable enough squad-filler. Vital cog in the engine room today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Can we rename this thread to "Give Pete a Chance" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Very useful is a massive overstatement, he played against the likes of Wigan and Fulham without getting a kick. And it's been 2 years since Guthrie has looked useful against any PL opposition. Good performance, it's long overdue. He's now scored and/or set up goals against West Ham, Birmingham and Wolves (and Wigan, since you mention them). I'd say that counts as useful. And it's now three home games since the turn of the year where Guthrie has filled in for Tiote and he's played his part in all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Very useful is a massive overstatement, he played against the likes of Wigan and Fulham without getting a kick. And it's been 2 years since Guthrie has looked useful against any PL opposition. Good performance, it's long overdue. He's now scored and/or set up goals against West Ham, Birmingham and Wolves (and Wigan, since you mention them). I'd say that counts as useful. And it's now three home games since the turn of the year where Guthrie has filled in for Tiote and he's played his part in all of them. Even for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Glass half-empty ffs. He shot, hit the post, came immediately out to Shola. It's as much an assist as any other iyam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Loven struggles against the best. But as you say Willie, he's been quite a handful against the weaker teams. Today Barton managed to give him a couple through balls. . Although he's been shit the last couple of games, he's not getting much service either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Give over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Glass half-empty ffs. He shot, hit the post, came immediately out to Shola. It's as much an assist as any other iyam. I thought the ball fell to him 3 yards out and he somehow contrived to hit the post from the middle of the goal, fortunately Shola was on hand to show him how to score? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Christ Almighty. He was in the position to get the shot away. I'm not arguing about this shit, i'm honestly not. He's useful against wank opposition. Fundamental point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 If that's an assist, man. Seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Statistically won't go down as an assist, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 What's so funny about Pete, love, and understanding? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 With Best out and Nolan next week, anyone who even looks like he might get a goal is going to start against Villa. Loven is one of those (and there aren't many). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Had a good game today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Still wank. Ranger would do his job better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Christ Almighty. He was in the position to get the shot away. I'm not arguing about this s***, i'm honestly not. He's useful against w*** opposition. Fundamental point. Better than shit against w*** opposition, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 He may be s*** sometimes, but again the service he's getting from our midfield is not the best. They're not able to give him what he likes best: through balls. Unlike Owen, Viduka, Martins and Duff, Loven manages to score/play well against the weaker opponents: Bham, Wham, Wolves. That's 9 points he contributed to. Those points are the difference between our current position and the relegation fight. When we also factor that he was free, is on sensible wages and had a big part in our promotion (even when his father died), his transfer suddenly become one of the best deals we've made. We have a tendency to ridicule him. But we rarely acknowledge what he's done for this club. I think he deserves some applause :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 'best deals we've made' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 'best deals we've made' I don't think you get my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 'best deals we've made' Think he means for the money he has been good business, compared to the likes of Duff Martins Owen who were probably earning like 4-5times his wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 'best deals we've made' Think he means for the money he has been good business, compared to the likes of Duff Martins Owen who were probably earning like 4-5times his wage. Correct. Owen contributed to our relegation, while Loven (on small wages) played a solid part in our promotion campaign. The math is simple.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 He still has no place in a PL squad. So he should be getting occassion goals; given that he doesn't really create, hold the ball up, link play or defend from the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Still wank. Ranger would do his job better. He probably would but with no premier league goals to his name and limited experience Pardew isn't going to put him in ahead of Lovenkrands. It's catch 22 with the likes of Ranger and Vukic. Personally I think they'll bring far more to the team than some current first teamers but until they are proven they won't be picked ahead of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I don't question his commitment and I am very grateful for the significant contribution he made to our promotion season. He's got a couple of goals and assists this term too, largely against poor opposition, and he seems committed enough in his comportment (if not his running/challenging for the ball!). I'm quite happy to have him in the squad for this season but as fourth or fifth choice alongside Kuqi. It's not his fault Pardew starts him ahead of Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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