peasepud Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I would have said fanbase was a global figure and not just bums on seats. Regardless of that though, we still absolutely piss on Everton whichever figure you use so the argument is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 kid on Skunkers was talking to David Craig at SJP Yesterday and he reckons Ashley is on the verge of taking the club off the market again and is also going to appoint an experienced manager, but deffo NOT JFK. O'Leary has been mentioned!!! Not sure I believe that. I don't get why he'd tell some random person, yet not report it on SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I personally would say that Everton have a lot more fans from the neighbouring counties of Merseyside than we have from outside of our region...jesus its like you saying Leeds dont have a big fanbase just because they dont fill elland road anymore whereas Leeds United have a much bigger fanbase than we do Outside Liverpool, the majority are the reds of Liverpool or Man United. We'll bring in more money from our fans in our current state than Everton ever will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? I personally would say that Everton have a lot more fans from the neighbouring counties of Merseyside than we have from outside of our region...jesus its like you saying Leeds dont have a big fanbase just because they dont fill elland road anymore whereas Leeds United have a much bigger fanbase than we do Leeds have a much bigger fanbase? Seriously how do you come too these conclusions? We can fill a 52,000 seeter stadium while Everton can't even come close to filling a 40,000 seater stadium, Leeds barely filled a 40,000 capacity stadium when they were in the Champions League for fuck sake! But they have a much bigger fanbase then us because "you would say they have more fans outside of the region"? Firstly mate that's guess work, secondly its pretty irrelivant. What's Everton and Leeds merchandise revenue at vs ours? I mean fans buy merchandise right wether they live in the same region or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 kid on Skunkers was talking to David Craig at SJP Yesterday and he reckons Ashley is on the verge of taking the club off the market again and is also going to appoint an experienced manager, but deffo NOT JFK. O'Leary has been mentioned!!! Not sure I believe that. I don't get why he'd tell some random person, yet not report it on SSN. SSn are right up Ashleys shitter and won't report anything negitive about him, as soon as the club is taken off the market SSN will report how poor Mike has been shaffted by time wasters and he feels its best for the club now if he tries to get in a manager that can keep us in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 kid on Skunkers was talking to David Craig at SJP Yesterday and he reckons Ashley is on the verge of taking the club off the market again and is also going to appoint an experienced manager, but deffo NOT JFK. O'Leary has been mentioned!!! Not sure I believe that. I don't get why he'd tell some random person, yet not report it on SSN. SSn are right up Ashleys shitter and won't report anything negitive about him, as soon as the club is taken off the market SSN will report how poor Mike has been shaffted by time wasters and he feels its best for the club now if he tries to get in a manager that can keep us in the Championship. Exactly. They won't do anything to make stories and access dry up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 If Ashley can't sell and Shearer won't work for him, I'd sooner have O'Leary a million times more than the likes of Hughton, Calderwood & Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? No they fucking don't Seriously how do you come too these conclusions? We can fill a 52,000 seeter stadium while Everton can't even come close to filling a 40,000 seeter stadium but they have a bigger fanbase then us because "you would say they have more fans outside of the region"? Firstly mate that's guess work, secondly its pretty irrelivant. Same thing with Leeds. So you honestly believe we have a bigger fanbase and cachement area than Leeds United too?...i think its time to take off your black and white Blinkers...next you will be saying we are a bigger club than Everton all because SJP holds 52k and Goodison 42k or so..irregardless of the fact we have won jack shit domestically for 55 years a lot of that time spent languishing in the second division..fucking hell it hits home when there are 2 clubs in the same league as Gateshead that have won a major domestic trophy since we last have....wake up we arent a big club in anything other than the size of our stadia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? I personally would say that Everton have a lot more fans from the neighbouring counties of Merseyside than we have from outside of our region...jesus its like you saying Leeds dont have a big fanbase just because they dont fill elland road anymore whereas Leeds United have a much bigger fanbase than we do Im searching but I dont see either of those "bigger" teams on this list. Deloitte Football Money League - 2007/08 revenue (previous year in brackets) 1 (1) Real Madrid £289.6million 2 (2) Manchester United £257.1m 3 (3) FC Barcelona £244.4m 4 (7) Bayern Munich £233.8m 5 (4) Chelsea £212.9m 6 (5) Arsenal £209.3m 7 (8) Liverpool £167.0m 8 (6) AC Milan £165.8m 9 (11) AS Roma £138.9m 10 (9) Internazionale £136.9m 11 (12) Juventus £132.6m 12 (13) Lyon £123.3m 13 (16) Schalke 04 £117.5m 14 (10) Tottenham £114.8m 15 (15) Hamburg £101.3m 16 (19) Marseille £100.4m 17 (14) Newcastle £99.4m 18 (-) Stuttgart £88.3m 19 (-) Fenerbahce £88.1m 20 (-) Manchester City £82.3m You can argue that Leeds dont reach the richest clubs because of the difference in Sky payments but whats Evertons excuse, they even had Europe. These clubs are on the top twenty due to a combination of success and global fanbase purchasing power. In our case we can discount success on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Mate I'm not going to bother, this is my final post to you. I can tell when a discussion is pointless, I mean now your going on about what we've won recently for fuck sake, nothing to do with the discussion at all You're on some kind of self loathing kick so I'll let you get on with it. Neither club your talking about can come close to our attendances, neither bring in more money from merchandise then us (you know that stuff fans buy). Yet your adamant they must have a higher fan base because of nothing more then your say so basically, no facts what so ever are in your favour but I'm the one who has blinkers on? Lets just forget about it and actually look at what matters, the fan base that actually brings money into the club, which is all any owner would care about. At least you can't use opinion to argue about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? No they fucking don't Seriously how do you come too these conclusions? We can fill a 52,000 seeter stadium while Everton can't even come close to filling a 40,000 seeter stadium but they have a bigger fanbase then us because "you would say they have more fans outside of the region"? Firstly mate that's guess work, secondly its pretty irrelivant. Same thing with Leeds. So you honestly believe we have a bigger fanbase and cachement area than Leeds United too?...i think its time to take off your black and white Blinkers...next you will be saying we are a bigger club than Everton all because SJP holds 52k and Goodison 42k or so..irregardless of the fact we have won jack shit domestically for 55 years a lot of that time spent languishing in the second division..fucking hell it hits home when there are 2 clubs in the same league as Gateshead that have won a major domestic trophy since we last have....wake up we arent a big club in anything other than the size of our stadia You mentioned Leeds before your edit. What are your figures based on? I'd love to see the spreadsheet which shows how many fans each club has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? No they f***ing don't Seriously how do you come too these conclusions? We can fill a 52,000 seeter stadium while Everton can't even come close to filling a 40,000 seeter stadium but they have a bigger fanbase then us because "you would say they have more fans outside of the region"? Firstly mate that's guess work, secondly its pretty irrelivant. Same thing with Leeds. So you honestly believe we have a bigger fanbase and cachement area than Leeds United too?...i think its time to take off your black and white Blinkers...next you will be saying we are a bigger club than Everton all because SJP holds 52k and Goodison 42k or so..irregardless of the fact we have won jack s*** domestically for 55 years a lot of that time spent languishing in the second division..f***ing hell it hits home when there are 2 clubs in the same league as Gateshead that have won a major domestic trophy since we last have....wake up we arent a big club in anything other than the size of our stadia England have won fuck all since 66 but barring Brazil are probably the biggest draw in world football. Winning things means nowt compared to reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 England are a bigger draw in world football than Germany Italy or Argentina think again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So your telling me Everton have significantly less fans going to matches then Newcastle but its realistic to think they might have more fans? No they f***ing don't Seriously how do you come too these conclusions? We can fill a 52,000 seeter stadium while Everton can't even come close to filling a 40,000 seeter stadium but they have a bigger fanbase then us because "you would say they have more fans outside of the region"? Firstly mate that's guess work, secondly its pretty irrelivant. Same thing with Leeds. So you honestly believe we have a bigger fanbase and cachement area than Leeds United too?...i think its time to take off your black and white Blinkers...next you will be saying we are a bigger club than Everton all because SJP holds 52k and Goodison 42k or so..irregardless of the fact we have won jack s*** domestically for 55 years a lot of that time spent languishing in the second division..f***ing hell it hits home when there are 2 clubs in the same league as Gateshead that have won a major domestic trophy since we last have....wake up we arent a big club in anything other than the size of our stadia England have won f*** all since 66 but barring Brazil are probably the biggest draw in world football. Winning things means nowt compared to reputation. You what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 England are a bigger draw in world football than Germany Italy or Argentina think again I would say so yes, obviously not as successful but a bigger draw..Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 England are a bigger draw in world football than Germany Italy or Argentina think again I would say so yes, obviously not as successful but a bigger draw..Aye What are you basing that on England are no bigger a draw than Spain France or Holland....jesus are you one of these media folk who think England are the best at everything when in reality they are shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 England are a bigger draw in world football than Germany Italy or Argentina think again I would say so yes, obviously not as successful but a bigger draw..Aye What are you basing that on England are no bigger a draw than Spain France or Holland....jesus are you one of these media folk who think England are the best at everything when in reality they are s**** Yeah because that's what I said didn't I You Knacker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Here is the top 10 most supported clubs (in percentage) 1. Liverpool – 14.3 2. Manchester United – 11.8 3. Tottenham Hotspur – 9.7 4. Arsenal – 9.6 5. Newcastle United – 5.8 6. Manchester City – 5.3 7. West Ham United – 4.9 8. Aston Villa – 4.4 9. Chelsea FC – 3.6 10. Everton FC – 3.1 According to the Daily Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/3797456/Liverpool-best-supported-team-in-Premier-League.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 What a shit fucking argument. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I'm going to bum thomo hard whether this comes off or not anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I'm not sure I have the strength to clutch at these straws any longer, I honestly don't believe that anything on the scale being mentioned is going to happen this week. I don't really blame Thomo as he seems genuine and I'm sure he's passing on what he believes is credible info. That's not to say that I don't hope I'm wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 England are a bigger draw in world football than Germany Italy or Argentina think again I would say so yes, obviously not as successful but a bigger draw..Aye What are you basing that on England are no bigger a draw than Spain France or Holland....jesus are you one of these media folk who think England are the best at everything when in reality they are shite You cant correlate someone saying they think England are one of teh biggsest draws to implying that they are therefore the "best", what's been said is perfectly acceptable, England are a massive draw all around the world, both the historical reasons, and for the mere fact that they have the most popular domestic league in the world. We have some of the biggest players in the world in our team, Im pretty confident that if you asked the general population of football fans to name the england first tea, then they'd be able to rattle it off much more quicjly than they would Germany or Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Nothing in todays ronny gill oh, apart from the fact Hughton is supposed to have a meeting with DL today "It was news to me then, and I'm not expected to talk to anybody from the club until later today. I will talk to (managing director) Derek Llambias, I don't know any of the facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I've got a feeling we won't be seeing much more of thomo after today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 SSn are right up Ashleys shitter and won't report anything negitive about him, as soon as the club is taken off the market SSN will report how poor Mike has been shaffted by time wasters and he feels its best for the club now if he tries to get in a manager that can keep us in the Championship. Exactly. They won't do anything to make stories and access dry up. What stories? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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