Dave Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I said this would happen. Shearer's away, he cannot be blamed from his side, and from their side there's no one there to stop them doing more wrongs against the club. Shearer should never have went on Holiday, simple as. What could he do to stop them anyway? He's not employed by them. He could still be around the club, in talks demanding who's not to be sold, and who needs to go, whether he's manager or not he knows what needs doing, they don't. His advice over the past few weeks now means nothing as out of mind out of site, they did the same with Keegan, again, another one i was right about when everyone thought everything was hunky dory. What talks? He can't just be expected to ring them up as a fan (which at the moment is all he is) and say 'Oh no! You can't sell Bassong!' and expect to have any influence. Keegan was the manager, that's totally different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I said this would happen. Shearer's away, he cannot be blamed from his side, and from their side there's no one there to stop them doing more wrongs against the club. Shearer should never have went on Holiday, simple as. Little harsh on Shearer. He's got no input. Ashley has blatantly cut him loose! If Bassong moves for £5m to Sunderland or a deal equally as s**** when Shearer is on holiday, Shearer himself whether he becomes boss will kick himself as being potentially the only person to stick up for the club and he's gone away. You seem to think that Shearer has the run of St James's park. Who says he can get past security? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I said this would happen. Shearer's away, he cannot be blamed from his side, and from their side there's no one there to stop them doing more wrongs against the club. Shearer should never have went on Holiday, simple as. Little harsh on Shearer. He's got no input. Ashley has blatantly cut him loose! If Bassong moves for £5m to Sunderland or a deal equally as s**** when Shearer is on holiday, Shearer himself whether he becomes boss will kick himself as being potentially the only person to stick up for the club and he's gone away. You seem to think that Shearer has the run of St James's park. Who says he can get past security? Shearer is meant to be back from Portugal today so I don't think a long weekend away is going to do much harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A mass squad exodus is inevitable imo, so i wouldn't have too many problems with it. It needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly because we need funds for a new squad. I can understand the negatives and the potential drama this could cause (doing it without a manager's input)... but look at it from a different direction. If Shearer was appointed now, he's got no money to work with. But if we start offloading the shit now, and we've made £20m from player sales by the time Shearer comes in - he's free to get cracking. We're going to lose a lot of players regardless. The only real danger of it is losing the wrong players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I doubt there are many that Shearer is desperate to keep, in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I said this would happen. Shearer's away, he cannot be blamed from his side, and from their side there's no one there to stop them doing more wrongs against the club. Shearer should never have went on Holiday, simple as. Little harsh on Shearer. He's got no input. Ashley has blatantly cut him loose! If Bassong moves for £5m to Sunderland or a deal equally as s**** when Shearer is on holiday, Shearer himself whether he becomes boss will kick himself as being potentially the only person to stick up for the club and he's gone away. You seem to think that Shearer has the run of St James's park. Who says he can get past security? Shearer is meant to be back from Portugal today so I don't think a long weekend away is going to do much harm. I hope that's all it is, and i hope he's straight back in there finding out what's going on and still showing the club direction since Ashley has abandoned us. If not all the horrible things were all frightened of happening will come true, if we don't have someone fighting our corner during all this were going to be living a very real nightmare for the next several seasons, more so than we've had already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The danger is that we sell off our high earners and one or two of our other attractive players but don't leave the manager enough time to replace them. I don't think anything should be done until a manager is in place because he will need time to assess what/who is needed to plug the gaps in the squad. That said, if the instructions are to sell Barton, Collicini, Butt, Duff and Geremi then I wouldn't be too worried. We need them off the wage bill and they're unlikely to represent major losses to the quality of the team anyway. Unfortunately, knowing Mike (clueless) Ashley as we do, he's more likely said everyone is up for sale in which case we'll lose players like Bassong, Taylor, Carroll, Ranger, Beye, Enrique before any of the shite gets snapped up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A mass squad exodus is inevitable imo, so i wouldn't have too many problems with it. It needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly because we need funds for a new squad. I can understand the negatives and the potential drama this could cause (doing it without a manager's input)... but look at it from a different direction. If Shearer was appointed now, he's got no money to work with. But if we start offloading the shit now, and we've made £20m from player sales by the time Shearer comes in - he's free to get cracking. We're going to lose a lot of players regardless. The only real danger of it is losing the wrong players. I'm not saying it's not inevitable, I just find it really unsettling that they're willing to decimate the squad without a manager so much as overseeing it. It's like they've learnt absolutely nothing from what went on before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I doubt there are many that Shearer is desperate to keep, in all honesty. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 We'll just have to hope that whoever values the players and decides whether a particular bid is acceptable has a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 We'll just have to hope that whoever values the players and decides whether a particular bid is acceptable has a clue. Well if Ashley has learnt anything he'll pick someone with knowledge of the city. Jimmy Nail, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 HTL & NE5 were right. Think this is as bad as it gets? It's barely started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Shearer's probably already told them which players he'd want to keep, and which he' d want to get rid of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 HTL & NE5 were right. Think this is as bad as it gets? It's barely started. Yup, it could get a whole lot worse yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 not so worried about us selling players now! shearer (manager or not) have talked with ashley about who he wants or the club should hang on to! many players have to leave...some are too good for the championship and others are on high wages! good to start early for the next season! Actually everybody should be for sale. Only players i think we should do extra to keep is: S. Taylor, Beye, Bassong. There are others i wouldn´t mind we kept....for example jonas, enrique but dont think its possible! Problem is we dont have a manager to buy new players! A take over must happen ASAP.....if it will take month or longer it will do the club no good! Please sell soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 HTL & NE5 were right. Think this is as bad as it gets? It's barely started. You take that back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Have we made a list of the 15 players on more than £50k that are still under contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 so ashley'll use this quick money to ease the £110m write off before he sells?? low blow. altough tbh the majority have to go anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A mass squad exodus is inevitable imo, so i wouldn't have too many problems with it. It needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly because we need funds for a new squad. I can understand the negatives and the potential drama this could cause (doing it without a manager's input)... but look at it from a different direction. If Shearer was appointed now, he's got no money to work with. But if we start offloading the shit now, and we've made £20m from player sales by the time Shearer comes in - he's free to get cracking. We're going to lose a lot of players regardless. The only real danger of it is losing the wrong players. Those are aexactly the players we will lose though. It's the likes of Bassong and Enrique who will attract bids, and without a manager to put his foot down, Ashley will bank the cash the first chance he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Apparently the cretinous blob is losing 200 grand a day on paying the wages (Good!) so you would think he'd want to get the ball moving as soon as possible. Especially considering how damn mean he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest helios_centric Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I don't see how we can pay anyone £50k a week in the Championship, so for me the issue of selling them is a requirement regardless of whether we have a manager or not. The problem is that the bids will flow for our better players and as we all know, that is not linked to earnings at all! Some of our shittest players earn the most money. Without a manager there is nobody to form a plan of which players we need to keep for next season. We're a rudderless vessel right now and we could end up selling our best players and being saddled with the huge earners until their contracts run out - will anyone really buy Geremi, Smith, Barton, Nolan, Duff, Xisco etc? Perhaps, but you can put your mortgage on someone bidding for Bassong, Martins, Enrique and Beye I reckon. I don't think anyone who knows a thing about football would have a problem seeing straight through Ashley's cunning plan - we are going to struggle to field a proper team next season in my opinion. A mix of kids and dross that we can't get off the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I wonder how much we are going to pay this agency to flog players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A mass squad exodus is inevitable imo, so i wouldn't have too many problems with it. It needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly because we need funds for a new squad. I can understand the negatives and the potential drama this could cause (doing it without a manager's input)... but look at it from a different direction. If Shearer was appointed now, he's got no money to work with. But if we start offloading the shit now, and we've made £20m from player sales by the time Shearer comes in - he's free to get cracking. We're going to lose a lot of players regardless. The only real danger of it is losing the wrong players. Those are aexactly the players we will lose though. It's the likes of Bassong and Enrique who will attract bids, and without a manager to put his foot down, Ashley will bank the cash the first chance he gets. I think we're kinda compelled to lose the likes of them tbh. Regardless of the frame of mind they're in at the moment, as soon as a few big clubs start sniffing around they'll want to go... and even though it's wretched that we're bound to lose our genuinely quality players - i'd rather have another season without a squad littered with unhappy players with their eyes set on leaving in the near future. It's the likes of Harper, Krul, Guthrie, Taylor, Beye (maybe), Carroll, Lovenkrands that i'd be most annoyed about leaving - players who will have both the desire to get back up, aswell as having a touch of quality in that league. Another thing that makes me kinda indifferent towards such a policy is the crippling wage bill we've got on the go at the moment. The urgency of needing to get these fat cats off the bill is pretty striking. We're still paying them and as of now we can't afford them. Need them outta here asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 A mass squad exodus is inevitable imo, so i wouldn't have too many problems with it. It needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly because we need funds for a new squad. I can understand the negatives and the potential drama this could cause (doing it without a manager's input)... but look at it from a different direction. If Shearer was appointed now, he's got no money to work with. But if we start offloading the shit now, and we've made £20m from player sales by the time Shearer comes in - he's free to get cracking. We're going to lose a lot of players regardless. The only real danger of it is losing the wrong players. Those are aexactly the players we will lose though. It's the likes of Bassong and Enrique who will attract bids, and without a manager to put his foot down, Ashley will bank the cash the first chance he gets. I think we're kinda compelled to lose the likes of them tbh. Regardless of the frame of mind they're in at the moment, as soon as a few big clubs start sniffing around they'll want to go... and even though it's wretched that we're bound to lose our genuinely quality players - i'd rather have another season without a squad littered with unhappy players with their eyes set on leaving in the near future. It's the likes of Harper, Krul, Guthrie, Taylor, Beye (maybe), Carroll, Lovenkrands that i'd be most annoyed about leaving - players who will have both the desire to get back up, aswell as having a touch of quality in that league. Another thing that makes me kinda indifferent towards such a policy is the crippling wage bill we've got on the go at the moment. The urgency of needing to get these fat cats off the bill is pretty striking. We're still paying them and as of now we can't afford them. Need them outta here asap. The only good thing about having such a shite team is that it doesn't really hurt if we lose most of them. Bit of a grim upside but these are the times we live in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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