Pilko Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 the details... WHAT ARE THE DETAILS?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Vintage ITV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Defoe the striker, as in goals and nothing else = Quality, has the statisitics to back it up. Defoe the footballer, as in link up play, holding the ball up, assists blah blah blah = Probably not very good. Depends what you want in him as a player really. Probably why the mackems are after him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 the details... WHAT ARE THE DETAILS?! You'll appreciate that for some reason, your post reminded me of: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hope we lose Adrian in Moldova. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hopefully this is the permanent reinstatement of Carrick. Vital to have a player like him in the team, one whose natural game is to drop deep and pick up the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hopefully this is the permanent reinstatement of Carrick. Vital to have a player like him in the team, one whose natural game is to drop deep and pick up the ball. Think Carrick's a good player. Seemed to suffer from a total lack of confidence a couple of years ago but he's got the quality to dictate the tempo of games. Very comfortable on the ball, perhaps needs to improve his decision-making. Plus, Ferguson saying he thinks Carrick will be key for them this season speaks a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hopefully this is the permanent reinstatement of Carrick. Vital to have a player like him in the team, one whose natural game is to drop deep and pick up the ball. Thought him and Lampard did really well actually, Carrick sitting deep and giving Lampard licence to get forward and get shots on goal. Looked a good partnership, shame about Lampard's age. Wilshere's role for 2014? Early days yet, but if he comes back from this seemingly eternal injury I think he'd slot in nicely there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Don't disagree he's worth being in the team but Carrick is still the living embodiment of english midfield mediocrity on the world stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Did Ogbonna play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Couldn't give a s*** how good his stats make him look. Even Redknapp had the tactical nouse to realise no side would ever achieve anything playing him. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6r8-bw1dyinSezXJkBiWS1ViFNDNeHbg4nmW0KQa1qx_zyTOt That's exactly how I'd describe blindly looking at his stats/highlights without realising just how poor a footballer he actually is How's looking at his stats burying my head in the sand. "Blah blah, I don't CARE that he's scored almost 200 goals at the highest level , he's poor blah blah". is though. I don't agree at all. This is my opinion having watched him play however many times over the years.. I honestly think in terms of fundamental footballing qualities he is close to being one of the worst players in the league. Average movement, average technique, wildly inconsistent first touch, abysmal link-up play, horrendous awareness of others on the pitch; ultimately very difficult to fit into a functioning team because of these things. He's got a good goalscoring record because he shoots every time he gets the ball and is quite good at it. Good qualities - if you never want to achieve anything as a team and are happy for him to do that. Just like Darren Bent he will always come up smelling of roses in a team because he scores goals and also ones that look pretty on the eye in isolation. But I'd hate to see him in a Newcastle team just like I'd hate to see Darren Bent ever play for us. But hey ho that's just my opinion. Let's try not to be 'aggressive'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Couldn't give a s*** how good his stats make him look. Even Redknapp had the tactical nouse to realise no side would ever achieve anything playing him. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6r8-bw1dyinSezXJkBiWS1ViFNDNeHbg4nmW0KQa1qx_zyTOt That's exactly how I'd describe blindly looking at his stats/highlights without realising just how poor a footballer he actually is How's looking at his stats burying my head in the sand. "Blah blah, I don't CARE that he's scored almost 200 goals at the highest level , he's poor blah blah". is though. I don't agree at all. This is my opinion having watched him play however many times over the years.. I honestly think in terms of fundamental footballing qualities he is close to being one of the worst players in the league. Average movement, average technique, wildly inconsistent first touch, abysmal link-up play, horrendous awareness of others on the pitch; ultimately very difficult to fit into a functioning team because of these things. He's got a good goalscoring record because he shoots every time he gets the ball and is quite good at it. Good qualities - if you never want to achieve anything as a team and are happy for him to do that. Just like Darren Bent he will always come up smelling of roses in a team because he scores goals and also ones that look pretty on the eye in isolation. But I'd hate to see him in a Newcastle team just like I'd hate to see Darren Bent ever play for us. But hey ho that's just my opinion. Let's try not to be 'aggressive'. I'd actually say Darren Bent is even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Agree, he is. Defoe has at least actively tried to improve as the years have gone on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 That's not what he's about though. See Andy Cole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Oh bloody hell man, you didn't take that comment seriously did you? He's been a decent PL striker for a long time and usually gets goals if given a decent run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Did Ogbonna play? Yeh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Andy Cole played alongside Peter Beardsley and had an almost telepathic understanding with him. He then went on to play a key role in a side that challenged for major honours, forging an immaculate understanding with another very different forward. I've never seen Defoe forge an understanding with any other forward or player on a football pitch ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Did Ogbonna play? Yeah. My Dad asked why Balotelli was playing at CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I can see both sides of the debate, which is why i'v never been able to fully make my mind up on Defoe. He's one of those names if I see him on the opposing teamsheet i'm concerned straight away, purely for his finishing ability. However on the flip side he sometimes gets completley marked out of games, rendering his team to 10 men essentially. Defoe's a good striker, as are the likes of Bent and Owen (if were looking for the most extreme version of good finisher but a lazy c*nt) but they are in that bracket of players who offer f*ck all else, which is why some people are put off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Defoe definitely offers more than Bent in a general footballing sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Only seen bits of this but Milner looked fucking class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Only seen bits of this but Milner looked f***ing class. Nah apparently he's shit. So's Parker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Just realised why it was so much better. Parker wasn't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 FA announce new Nike deal Monday, 03 September, 2012 The Football Association has announced an exciting new partnership with Nike that will see them create kits for every England team. The world’s leading sportswear firm will design and make the clothing for our men and women’s sides at every level. England’s first kits to bear the Nike Swoosh will be launched in Spring next year, as The FA marks its 150th anniversary and the agreement runs until 31 July 2018. Read More Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Doesn't Nike own Umbro anycase? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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