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Hate it when England managers treat games like this as training sessions, 6 changes and the likes of Lalana and Rodriguez..

 

Lallana was one of Englands better players I thought, why Milner is still around though i'm not sure.

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Hate it when England managers treat games like this as training sessions, 6 changes and the likes of Lalana and Rodriguez..

 

Lallana was one of Englands better players I thought, why Milner is still around though i'm not sure.

 

Works hard...:(

 

Alexis Sanchez has been the best player on the field by a country mile.

 

After a shocking last season, he's impressed me for Barca this season so far.

 

He wasn't shocking at all last season. He had a poor start but really picked up form after Christmas.

 

Aye he was never shocking.... i'd love a shocking player who gets double figures in goals and assists.... not as good as hype at Udinese though.

 

Showing his level now though, bunch of reasons really.... more direct football, confidence is up and Neymar coming into the team have all contributed to that.

 

 

 

Best player on the field by a mile then Diaz then another mile then Chile then England :anguish:

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The South American teams are great to watch atm. Prefer them with their off-the-cuff play, iffy defending and other imperfections than the formidable German and Spanish possession sides.

 

:thup: Chile, Colombia and Argentina have to be 3 most top heavy teams in the world yet 3 of the best to watch.

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The South American teams are great to watch atm. Prefer them with their off-the-cuff play, iffy defending and other imperfections than the formidable German and Spanish possession sides.

 

:thup: Chile, Colombia and Argentina have to be 3 most top heavy teams in the world.

 

Uruguay!

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The South American teams are great to watch atm. Prefer them with their off-the-cuff play, iffy defending and other imperfections than the formidable German and Spanish possession sides.

 

Completely agree, the fact i don't get to watch much due to time zones probably contributes to the enjoyment factor as well.

 

Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that lark.

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Lallana was ok, but I'd prefer to have the likes of Sturridge or Wellbeck playing, also prefer to keep the same group together that had been gaining a bit of a understanding over the last few games.

 

Would have Lallana over Welbeck every time.

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Lallana was ok, but I'd prefer to have the likes of Sturridge or Wellbeck playing, also prefer to keep the same group together that had been gaining a bit of a understanding over the last few games.

 

Would have Lallana over Welbeck every time.

 

Lallana over Townsend or Walcott maybe. Welbeck needs to be in the side, as tonight again proved. Absolutely fuck all ball retention in the final third - something Welbeck is absolutely paramount to. That being said, England were absolutely wank altogether this evening. Completely schooled by the opposition. Neither team really got out of second gear, which is typical of a friendly at this point in the season. Awful game.

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What a load of absolute fucking shit.

 

I can see the excuses already. It was an experimental side. It was a friendly. Guess what, it was a friendly for Chile too and they were missing arguably their 2 best players after Sanchez in Vidal and Valdivia. And they wiped the fucking floor with us, good and proper.

 

Not that it was actually surprising, I guess. We know fine well Chile are going to be far superior on the ball - hell, 30 countries or more in the world are better on the ball than us. The sheer confusion and panic at coming up against a side who are like this is frightening. I'm actually wondering whether we'd have actually played better against someone like Brazil or Argentina, sat back knowing that the opposition are the ones who'll make most of the running. I'm thinking that's going to be our only hope next summer to get anywhere near the latter stages, because tonight against a side who will be nowhere near the favourites for the World Cup (and yes, I know they have talented players), we got shown up for what we are. A mediocre European country.

 

Of course, nothing is going to change for the foreseeable future until actual grass-roots action is taken. Proper change for me is not building an expensive academy. Change for me is a change in attitudes, right down to school level where the biggest, the quickest, the strongest players will invariably be picked and given preferential treatment with little thought given to talented kids who are great with the ball but lack the immediate physically dominating appearance. Sometimes I wonder, until some actual change is achieved, if we're actually just best off playing the "English" way, 4-4-2, get into them, all the cliches. Because seeing us try to match sophisticated international outfits with some form of 4-2-3-1 crap is at times embarrassing.

 

One slight positive is that at least we're seeing a few more players given a chance at this level (e.g. the Southampton players) but that will only get somewhere if they're given a chance beyond a friendly or 2. Picking them for one friendly then telling them to bugger off achieves absolutely nothing.

 

Limping through qualification in a mediocre group is now seen as a real achievement which is indicative of the level we're at. Why haven't we taken a couple of tournaments as a "free hit", properly tried to resolve our deep-rooted problems and slowly rebuilt? Sheer arrogance perhaps? Whatever it is, we'll not be winning anything anytime soon unless we look at the wider problem.

 

I'm not apathetic about the national team. I want us to win, I really do. The usual excuse given is "well, they don't represent us. What a bunch of wankers" (increasingly I find that to be an odd rationale, given top-level football is, seemingly, riddled with wankers, so I'm unsure how, say, Newcastle or Everton, would be separate from this criticism.) I also think there are also plenty of them playing for England who desperately want to succeed with England and contribute.

 

What a mess.

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