James Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 It irritates me that people cast shite on the proffesionalism of some players because they aren't very good. Nolan is shite, but it doesn't mean that he's out for himself. Good of him to speak up against the unproffessional boardroom if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 It irritates me that people cast s**** on the proffesionalism of some players because they aren't very good. Owen, Duff, Butt, Nolan, Smith, relegation, fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. even though they played a huge part in making conditions the way they are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. even though they played a huge part in making conditions the way they are? If they signed you for Newcastle, and you were really shit, and the club got relegated, would it be your fault? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. even though they played a huge part in making conditions the way they are? If they signed you for Newcastle, and you were really shit, and the club got relegated, would it be your fault? its not a case of being shit, its a case of not trying since november. i know if i had a shit boss i'd still cover my arse to the best of my abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Jaysus, poor working conditions? Diddums, bless every last one of them, lord knows what the sweatshop workers in the far east making football tops would think of that one. And the thought that any potential owner is sitting watching SSN or reading the Ronnie is truly laughable. As for Ashley when did he ever give a flying fuck what anyone says, does or threatens? The majority of players couldn't give a flying fuck either, they showed that last season, apart from a precious three or four. And Nolan, he's champing at the bit waiting to get out of here, we hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Relative to other professional footballers or staff. Your pre-season is being taken by a coach with no long-term direction regarding the season ahead, and three of the main coaches are looking at leaving the club and therefore have no long-term interest in your fitness for the current season. Chris Hughton is selflessly working his guts off knowing that in a couple of weeks he could be sacked on a whim by the new people. Two coaches are leaving in two weeks and no active attempt to replace them is being made. Many players are being treated like slaves by Mike Ashley: do as you are told, don't ask questions, don't get any answers regarding the future, and you aren't allowed to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 And the thought that any potential owner is sitting watching SSN or reading the Ronnie is truly laughable. they will know about a possible revolt of staff in a company they are trying to buy. its truly laughable to think they arent keeping very close tabs on most aspects of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 And the thought that any potential owner is sitting watching SSN or reading the Ronnie is truly laughable. they will know about a possible revolt of staff in a company they are trying to buy. its truly laughable to think they arent keeping very close tabs on most aspects of the club. True, but what do footballers say when the club ownership is in question? We want it to be sorted out. No potential buyer will be surprised, worried or moved in any way by this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 And the thought that any potential owner is sitting watching SSN or reading the Ronnie is truly laughable. they will know about a possible revolt of staff in a company they are trying to buy. its truly laughable to think they arent keeping very close tabs on most aspects of the club. True, but what do footballers say when the club ownership is in question? We want it to be sorted out. No potential buyer will be surprised, worried or moved in any way by this stuff. im not sure about that. with stories about the players planning a strike and then 2 players coming out and basically confirming the story (to a degree) i'd be a bit concerned by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Relative to other professional footballers or staff. Your pre-season is being taken by a coach with no long-term direction regarding the season ahead, and three of the main coaches are looking at leaving the club and therefore have no long-term interest in your fitness for the current season. Chris Hughton is selflessly working his guts off knowing that in a couple of weeks he could be sacked on a whim by the new people. Two coaches are leaving in two weeks and no active attempt to replace them is being made. Many players are being treated like slaves by Mike Ashley: do as you are told, don't ask questions, don't get any answers regarding the future, and you aren't allowed to leave. Boo-hoo. The lazy cunts should have thought about that when horrifically underperforming last season. Treated like slaves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Relative to other professional footballers or staff. Your pre-season is being taken by a coach with no long-term direction regarding the season ahead, and three of the main coaches are looking at leaving the club and therefore have no long-term interest in your fitness for the current season. Chris Hughton is selflessly working his guts off knowing that in a couple of weeks he could be sacked on a whim by the new people. Two coaches are leaving in two weeks and no active attempt to replace them is being made. Many players are being treated like slaves by Mike Ashley: do as you are told, don't ask questions, don't get any answers regarding the future, and you aren't allowed to leave. Boo-hoo. The lazy cunts should have thought about that when horrifically underperforming last season. Treated like slaves Don't see why being shit or lacking confidence can be the players fault. Certainly the players that have spoken out so far have every right to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Relative to other professional footballers or staff. Your pre-season is being taken by a coach with no long-term direction regarding the season ahead, and three of the main coaches are looking at leaving the club and therefore have no long-term interest in your fitness for the current season. Chris Hughton is selflessly working his guts off knowing that in a couple of weeks he could be sacked on a whim by the new people. Two coaches are leaving in two weeks and no active attempt to replace them is being made. Many players are being treated like slaves by Mike Ashley: do as you are told, don't ask questions, don't get any answers regarding the future, and you aren't allowed to leave. Boo-hoo. The lazy cunts should have thought about that when horrifically underperforming last season. Treated like slaves Don't see why being shit or lacking confidence can be the players fault. Certainly the players that have spoken out so far have every right to. I was more referring to the rumoured 'strike', which I've just realised isn't this thread so apologies about lack of clarity. I still think treated like slaves is funny though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But it isn't professional to vent your personal feelings about the people who pay your wages in public, is it? It is just the same as being on strike against poor conditions of employment. Relatively speaking, the players are experiencing poor working conditions, and are perfectly entitled to speak out. Relatively speaking? Relative to whom? Most people in the country's jobs are under threat to some extent with no certainty how long their boss or even company is going to be around in its present guise. Most people put up with it though. Whilst getting paid less in a year than these rabble do in a week. Relative to other professional footballers or staff. Your pre-season is being taken by a coach with no long-term direction regarding the season ahead, and three of the main coaches are looking at leaving the club and therefore have no long-term interest in your fitness for the current season. Chris Hughton is selflessly working his guts off knowing that in a couple of weeks he could be sacked on a whim by the new people. Two coaches are leaving in two weeks and no active attempt to replace them is being made. Many players are being treated like slaves by Mike Ashley: do as you are told, don't ask questions, don't get any answers regarding the future, and you aren't allowed to leave. Boo-hoo. The lazy c***s should have thought about that when horrifically underperforming last season. Treated like slaves Don't see why being s*** or lacking confidence can be the players fault. Certainly the players that have spoken out so far have every right to. How about when they gave up in many, many games that not their fault either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Nolan hasn't exactly earned his right to speak out quite yet IMO...so shut the fuck up you overpaid lazy bastard and do something in exchange for your huge wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 If I'm totally honest I don't believe that the majority of our players just couldn't be arsed. I just think they didn't have the confidence or determination to do better than they were. Players like Nolan, Butt, Owen, Viduka, Barton, etc, etc are all has beens- they've already had the best part of their careers. Now they either aren't fit enough or good enough to keep up with the pace or physical ability of modern day football. Our problem isn't just this - it's also that we appear to have a team pretty much full of people who have probably always had some degree of talent but no footballing brain. It's just the younger, hungry members of our squad who are worth playing because they have it all ahead of them and now is the time for their big break. The only player I actually exclude from this is Habib Beye. I think it's something that many people have just jumped on the bandwagon with - this whole "They couldn't be arsed" theory. They could be arsed but they weren't physically capable imo. The only people, as a result, to blame for the poor acquisition of players are those above playing level. Yes, the players have to take the brunt of the blame too because ultimately it's them who have cost us, but at the end of the day 11 individuals don't make a team - no matter how good they are, they need to be managed, and management and leadership is what we lacked all last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Christ, shove another bacon buttie in it Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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