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I'm not sure how Mr. Vuckic can question why brummie posts on here when he never actually celebrated our demise in the first place. :lol:

 

What's his crime? Supporting the same club as them people with the banners? Being there on the day? Bloody hell man, I haven't a clue what he's going on about, but it's totally uncalled for and he is making himself look pretty silly.

 

 

 

What's more, I wasn't even there.

 

Despite being a season ticket holder, I was so keen to celebrate your demise - as indicated by my long history of spiteful, wind up, vindictive posting on here - that I didn't bother going to the match.

 

 

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Your on the wrong board, we'd rather lose 4-3 than win 1-0. We can't relate.

 

:laugh:

 

To be honest, after our 6-4 LC semi weirdathon, and the 5-2 freakathon of two weeks ago against Burnley, plus today's attempt to throw it all away at Reading, I'm not really sure what we prefer any more, either.

 

 

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Would love to see Villa - Spurs in the final.

 

Think that would be a pretty decent game providing MON tells his team to actually try and play football this time.

 

For all your moans, you don't actually seem to take many points of us, KD.

 

I'd back you to do well against any lower half team. Put you against the better sides, though, and you spend 90 minutes passing in pretty triangles around the centre spot and generally don't deliver.

 

You're the inverse of us. s*** teams = we struggle. Decent teams = we do OK.

 

I just get fed up when a teams sole purpose in a game is to stop the other team from scoring (even at home). Villa have absolutely no excuse playing like that as your squad is filled with good footballers who can actually play football.  It's like MON tells your players to soak up pressure and hit us on the break once or twice if there's an opportunity.

 

The 2 times we played you this season was painful to watch. You used the exact same tactics Hull city and Stoke used against us. You actually played worse then both those teams too tbh.

 

That's not actually true, though,

 

There's a difference between defending well and ONLY defending well. We didn't win at Old Trafford and Anfield by sticking 11 men behind the ball.

 

We're not Brazil 1970, either, but it is a bit too easy to label us boring as an excuse to detract from your own deficiences.

 

Like your fans did at WHL against us this year shouting "hoof" at us whilst you spent 90 minutes hoofing the ball up to Peter Crouch.

 

We've got plenty of creativity and are exciting to watch most of the time. The fact we defend well just gets twisted and used against us. I don't really know what we're meant to do, give a few goals away? (Although we managed that today, so maybe we're ahead of the game on that one).

 

How am i "detracting from our own deficiencies" when i've said countless time the way to play us is using the defensive tactics you employ? and also stating countless times we're one of the least clinical teams in the league?

 

I'm not having a go at how you play against other teams. I'm talking about how you played against us twice this season. You rarely got out your half. You did nothing but defend and occasionally play it long to Agbonlahor or Young to counter attack.  Didn't we have something like 60%+ possession and over 20 shots on goal in both games...i mean wtf. Yes you defended superbly in both games but you rely heavily on your defence (which is a weird for a team that has many good attacking players).

 

At WHL there was a few times we played it long to Crouch, but nowhere near as much as Richard Dunne tried to make out in the post match interview. Think he only said that because of Wengers comments about you being a long ball team the week before.

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At WHL there was a few times we played it long to Crouch, but nowhere near as much as Richard Dunne tried to make out in the post match interview. Think he only said that because of Wengers comments about you being a long ball team the week before.

 

I think you'll find the press coverage of the match show that to not be the case - have a look back.

 

You constantly played it long to Crouch in the second half especially, whiilst berating us for being a long ball team (something which your fans were only doing because Wenger had mentioned it a few days before, now you come to mention him).

 

Funny seeing Spurs fans jumping on some (widely ridiculed) notion an Arsenal manager had put out there a few days before.

 

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Has Arteta played for Spain?

 

If Almunia had a shout to qualify for England, does Arteta?

 

Think he said he'd never play for England. I think he does qualify though.

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Has Arteta played for Spain?

 

If Almunia had a shout to qualify for England, does Arteta?

 

In the past he wasn't able to due to his U21 caps, however now FIFA has changed the rules and only a competitive full international game can tie a player to one country he is eligible.

 

All it would take is to give him a passport and he'd be able to don the England shirt. The thing is that he still hopes to play for Spain and the FA and Capello seem pretty firmly against these kind of scenarios.

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At WHL there was a few times we played it long to Crouch, but nowhere near as much as Richard Dunne tried to make out in the post match interview. Think he only said that because of Wengers comments about you being a long ball team the week before.

 

I think you'll find the press coverage of the match show that to not be the case - have a look back.

 

You constantly played it long to Crouch in the second half especially, whiilst berating us for being a long ball team (something which your fans were only doing because Wenger had mentioned it a few days before, now you come to mention him).

 

Funny seeing Spurs fans jumping on some (widely ridiculed) notion an Arsenal manager had put out there a few days before.

 

 

My point still stands. We still had a ridiculous amount of possession and a ridiculous amount of shots on goal. You literally did nothing but defend well. In both games can you pick out an attack minded player that played well for Villa?

 

Wasn't the MOTM players from your team Cueller in the first game and either Dunne or Friediel in the second?

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Arteta does qualify for England, but he's stated that his first choice will be always Spain. Sadly he was born in the same generation as Xavi, Iniesta, Alonso...

 

Actually he had a pretty decent chance of making the Confed Cup squad last year, but he went down injuried. I hope he ends up capped at some point, he really is brilliant and deserves to play international football.

 

Also, enlighten me about the naturalization rules... if he can play for England does this mean he could also play for Scotland, Wales, Norn? Or how does this work?

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At WHL there was a few times we played it long to Crouch, but nowhere near as much as Richard Dunne tried to make out in the post match interview. Think he only said that because of Wengers comments about you being a long ball team the week before.

 

I think you'll find the press coverage of the match show that to not be the case - have a look back.

 

You constantly played it long to Crouch in the second half especially, whiilst berating us for being a long ball team (something which your fans were only doing because Wenger had mentioned it a few days before, now you come to mention him).

 

Funny seeing Spurs fans jumping on some (widely ridiculed) notion an Arsenal manager had put out there a few days before.

 

 

My point still stands. We still had a ridiculous amount of possession and a ridiculous amount of shots on goal. You literally did nothing but defend well. In both games can you pick out an attack minded player that played well for Villa?

 

Wasn't the MOTM players from your team Cueller in the first game and either Dunne or Friediel in the second?

 

The point is, I don't base our whole season on matches against Spurs.

 

I could ask you about your record against other top 6/8 sides this season, and I bet it pales into insignificance compared to ours. Spurs this season are flat track bullies, beating the shit teams easily and struggling against anyone half decent.

 

I could also point out that whilst you had plenty of possession against us at our place this year, I barely remember you causing the keeper any trouble, and the same goes for the match at your place. In fact, especially the match at your place.

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Arteta does qualify for England, but he's stated that his first choice will be always Spain. Sadly he was born in the same generation as Xavi, Iniesta, Alonso...

 

Actually he had a pretty decent chance of making the Confed Cup squad last year, but he went down injuried. I hope he ends up capped at some point, he really is brilliant and deserves to play international football.

 

Also, enlighten me about the naturalization rules... if he can play for England does this mean he could also play for Scotland, Wales, Norn? Or how does this work?

 

Pretty sure this is the case yes. Obviously we're sitting in a pretty privelidged position with FIFA (being the founders of football) meaning we're all allowed to play as seperate entities when actually we're all part of the same country.

 

This obviously confususes the usual FIFA rules when it comes to naturalisation but I'm pretty sure if he was to take up British citizenship he theoretically could play for any one of the home nations. The home nations all agreed to a gentlemens agreement that none of them would ever cap players via the naturalisation method, not that this means anything contractually so any of them could just break this agreement at any time.

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I've always had a dislike for Spurs - however this season - probably for the first season in a long time - they have been truly class and Scumbag Harry's plan seems to be coming into fruition.

 

A lot of the England team in the Summer will be made up of Spurs players, for a reason too.

 

As I say I generally hate Spurs and Spurs fans but this season they have nearly lived up to the hype.

 

A great team to watch even if just for Defoe slotting goals away nicely.

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At WHL there was a few times we played it long to Crouch, but nowhere near as much as Richard Dunne tried to make out in the post match interview. Think he only said that because of Wengers comments about you being a long ball team the week before.

 

I think you'll find the press coverage of the match show that to not be the case - have a look back.

 

You constantly played it long to Crouch in the second half especially, whiilst berating us for being a long ball team (something which your fans were only doing because Wenger had mentioned it a few days before, now you come to mention him).

 

Funny seeing Spurs fans jumping on some (widely ridiculed) notion an Arsenal manager had put out there a few days before.

 

 

My point still stands. We still had a ridiculous amount of possession and a ridiculous amount of shots on goal. You literally did nothing but defend well. In both games can you pick out an attack minded player that played well for Villa?

 

Wasn't the MOTM players from your team Cueller in the first game and either Dunne or Friediel in the second?

 

The point is, I don't base our whole season on matches against Spurs.

 

I could ask you about your record against other top 6/8 sides this season, and I bet it pales into insignificance compared to ours. Spurs this season are flat track bullies, beating the s*** teams easily and struggling against anyone half decent.

 

I could also point out that whilst you had plenty of possession against us at our place this year, I barely remember you causing the keeper any trouble, and the same goes for the match at your place. In fact, especially the match at your place.

 

For all the times you inform me about how much i moan, you don't half make a big deal about a bit of constructive criticism. When you tell me that we struggle against the big teams i can't deny it because it's the truth.

 

You played s***, defensive football against us. I'm not asking you to base your whole season on it, i'm not saying you play s*** boring football in general. I'm simply saying you played utter dogshit football against us twice this season and i'd rather not play Villa in the cup because i know what to expect. I prefer watching a good, open football match.....not 90 minutes on the art of defending.

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Don't know why Spurs and Villa get so much jip tbh. I've been to Villa a couple of times and sat in the holte end and yes, I did wonder if they were watching the same game as me (never stopped slating the ref and demanding penalties that clearly werent). All football fans are exactly the same, most couldnt tell the eyeballs from their arsehole. Take it with a pinch of salt

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You played shit, defensive football against us. I'm not asking you to base your whole season on it, i'm not saying you play shit boring football in general. I'm simply saying you played utter dogshit football against us twice this season and i'd rather not play Villa in the cup because i know what to expect. I prefer watching a good, open football match.....not 90 minutes on the art of defending.

 

I'm not making it out to be anything it isn't, I'm saying that

 

- you played far more long ball than we did

- we don't spend 90 minutes on the art of defending - we wouldn't have won as many games as we have if that were the case. Isn't that comment at odds with your "I'm not saying you play shit boring football in general" comment, incidentally?

- you may have played the better football against us, and I said so at the time, but I don't judge our entire season on two matches.

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You played s***, defensive football against us. I'm not asking you to base your whole season on it, i'm not saying you play s*** boring football in general. I'm simply saying you played utter dogshit football against us twice this season and i'd rather not play Villa in the cup because i know what to expect. I prefer watching a good, open football match.....not 90 minutes on the art of defending.

 

I'm not making it out to be anything it isn't, I'm saying that

 

- you played far more long ball than we did

- we don't spend 90 minutes on the art of defending - we wouldn't have won as many games as we have if that were the case. Isn't that comment at odds with your "I'm not saying you play s*** boring football in general" comment, incidentally?

- you may have played the better football against us, and I said so at the time, but I don't judge our entire season on two matches.

 

No because i'm specifically referring to your games against us. I don't want to play Villa because i know exactly how MON will set your team out AGAINST US. I'd rather play Chelsea in the final (if we get there). I don't like losing games where we play well and end up unlucky whereas i don't mind losing games where we genuinely deserve to lose.

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I didn't know where to put this so I thought here would be the best place.

 

The Champions League playoff's that have been mentioned to happen will have a situation where the 4th placed team will enter the final without playing games, with the 7th placed team will play away to the 6th placed team and the winner of that games will play away to the 5th placed team, and the winner of that will enter the final against the 4th placed team. Now that to me is better then the current format in the CCC, League 1 and 2. It seems more fair to the team who fiished higher in the league and gives a real advantage to each team who finishes higher in the playoff spots while also giving the other teams a chance of winning the playoff's. So why can't that system be used in the promotion playoff's?

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I didn't know where to put this so I thought here would be the best place.

 

The Champions League playoff's that have been mentioned to happen will have a situation where the 4th placed team will enter the final without playing games, with the 7th placed team will play away to the 6th placed team and the winner of that games will play away to the 5th placed team, and the winner of that will enter the final against the 4th placed team. Now that to me is better then the current format in the CCC, League 1 and 2. It seems more fair to the team who fiished higher in the league and gives a real advantage to each team who finishes higher in the playoff spots while also giving the other teams a chance of winning the playoff's. So why can't that system be used in the promotion playoff's?

 

Think it's been used in some form of Rugby. The problem is that it gives the lower ranked teams time to get some form together in the build up.

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